Discord Mafia - ma55-chat

## DAY 1 TOP ##

Giles Corey pinned a message to this channel. 2023-08-07 4:05 p.m.

First

1:15 p.m.

Nice!

Hi oomfies

Ngekop

First

Giles is first actually

Giles wtf

Quick lock and unlock chat.

(I accidentally gave it to alive line SP)

Oh LOL

Lmao

Hi luka

Hiii

1:16 p.m.

Anyways mafia 100% went daychat I refuse to believe they didn’t so I’m going to assume that exists

??

1:17 p.m.

I assumed the opposite until you said that

???

1:17 p.m.

Isn’t daytalk like really strong

1:17 p.m.

Innocent child cute

1:17 p.m.

I’d rather have traitor conversion or rolecop

1:18 p.m.

Oh keaton is IC LMAO

I think I would go traitor conversion rolecop and daytalk

NICEEEE

Danger!? Luka!

I think I would go traitor conversion rolecop and daytalk

All 3?

Yeah

1:18 p.m.

If I rollled scum my plan was to go everything

2 goons + rolecop vs 5 pr’s

And turn this into pr madnes

Danger!? Luka!

If I rollled scum my plan was to go everything

Mine was to go nothing

1:18 p.m.

Boring

But like

1:18 p.m.

If anything

1:19 p.m.

Traitor+rolecop

1:19 p.m.

Day chat imo is

hello

Well nvm

1:19 p.m.

Day chat is the 2nd dumbest thing to pick imo

I could see no rolecop Day chat is just still really strong I would kinda prefer it over rolecop

Bulletproof is the 1st

Ngekop

Day chat is the 2nd dumbest thing to pick imo

Thank you

Seriously why on earth would you pick bp

Danger!? Luka!

I could see no rolecop Day chat is just still really strong I would kinda prefer it over rolecop

No day talk is annoying but you can deal with that

1:20 p.m.

What i think we should actually assume is traitor converted

1:20 p.m.

If mafia didnt convert traitor this will be a nightmare for whoever is traitor

hola

No speaking in different languages pls

1:21 p.m.

Hi kiri

so by bayes' theorem 14% 21% 29% 36% approx chances of 0/1/2/3 powers, given IC reveal

Ngekop

No speaking in different languages pls

lmao

Ok well this is a bad start already

1:22 p.m.

Kiri didnt roll toen

1:22 p.m.

Town

1:22 p.m.

;-;

well I like you woud pick zeroes

I mean

convenient then that IC has turned up right

Probs not

1:22 p.m.

Bc i’d have a partner

1:22 p.m.

But i would try that

makes me look more towny

kirigiri

convenient then that IC has turned up right

Eh convenient that the IC is strong

1:23 p.m.

Keaton is good

kirigiri

makes me look more towny

??

you heard what I said

1:23 p.m.

given IC is there it means it's more likely that maf has picked more powers, all else being equal

Eh

1:24 p.m.

I dont like to go by that tbh

1:24 p.m.

We probs have keaton for 1-2 days at most thi

Ngekop

If mafia didnt convert traitor this will be a nightmare for whoever is traitor

I think traitor is locked to be in game

Tho*

may be useful, may be not nge

Danger!? Luka!

I think traitor is locked to be in game

??

kirigiri

so by bayes' theorem 14% 21% 29% 36% approx chances of 0/1/2/3 powers, given IC reveal

14% no powers lol

Danger!? Luka!

14% no powers lol

Additional*

Ngekop

??

I have no clue how traitor works but I read that as +1 mafia member so ofc mafia would choose it

To the 2 we get automatically

Ngekop

Additional*

Oh

but I don't trust anyone else besides ourselves to do the maths on that, so may as well put it out there

Danger!? Luka!

I have no clue how traitor works but I read that as +1 mafia member so ofc mafia would choose it

I mean

1:25 p.m.

If both mafias die and they dont convert traitor

1:25 p.m.

I understand traitor would take over

I mean zero is to me the obvious choice, but would be boring to play this again if we all agree it's the established meta, so I won't explain why

Confused Isn’t traitor +1 mafia member

kirigiri

I mean zero is to me the obvious choice, but would be boring to play this again if we all agree it's the established meta, so I won't explain why

Zero is kind of boring though so

kirigiri

I mean zero is to me the obvious choice, but would be boring to play this again if we all agree it's the established meta, so I won't explain why

Nah the established meta imo is

1:26 p.m.

Convert traitor

I disagree

Don’t get me wrong zero makes the game scum sided but it’s boring

I mean

1:26 p.m.

I already played this

1:26 p.m.

Lol

I followed that game sporadically

Traitor conversion is

did maf pick two or three that one

Two

aha

1:27 p.m.

and kirin was the the vig

Imo converting traitor is best

kirigiri

and kirin was the the vig

Mhm

does traitor count towards the total for mafia?

1:27 p.m.

I assumed it did

Idk

hmmm

I mean imo yes

1:28 p.m.

Bc if not then like

wait huh you legitimately didn't ask giles did you

Ofc i didnt

1:28 p.m.

Why would i

HEY PEOPLE

Nvm

LMAFO

Hi

hi

CALLAHAN

1:29 p.m.

!!

HOW R U

evenin

Im in class

1:29 p.m.

Nge are these just joke votes

hehe

Best to ask

I love how Keaton is confirmed town

I wont answer that

Ok

1:30 p.m.

Oh so Keaton is innocent child

LMAO

cool

NGE

Nice!

1:30 p.m.

Let’s go!

Kiri locktown

And I’m locked scum for voting you sadly

Oh idg

I love that we instantly had the same thought

Idc*

1:31 p.m.

I will constantly vote whoever if i had to bet on being mafia would be my pick as weak as that can be

Wait

Or whoever i think if i vote will provide me useful info

the prs r randomized

Yes

okay got u

Ngekop

I will constantly vote whoever if i had to bet on being mafia would be my pick as weak as that can be

Can you explain why you would bet Kadan to be mafia when they said one word MenharaQuestion

The only thing mafia knows is the amount of pr’s

1:32 p.m.

And we know it’s 2-5

Danger!? Luka!

Can you explain why you would bet Kadan to be mafia when they said one word MenharaQuestion

No i cant

Ngekop

The only thing mafia knows is the amount of pr’s

And innocent child is a pr Giggle

who’s town

Ngekop

No i cant

Ok

I know

Other then Keaton

charlie

who’s town

Me

I claim town

you've spoken to at least two calla

Let’s get this towncore happening

charlie

who’s town

Me

or seen them talk

Huh?

1:33 p.m.

Luka/kiri/nge/callahan/dec/kadan

1:33 p.m.

True

1:33 p.m.

At least 2

Also a traitor

Idk

Okay so basically hm

I think converting traitor is still best

oh just noticed Dec speak lol

Yeah then it’s 3v9 really if they took traitor

Dec spoke?

yeah was just thinking the maf isn't going to be exactly nge/luka/kadan

Not many people would do a great job playing as traitor

Traitor is hard to play

Indeed

rip to the traitor

I obviously would do a great job(I don’t know what traitor does)

I think my playstyle is naturally quite traitory

Unless they r recruited

kirigiri

I think my playstyle is naturally quite traitory

Mhm

1:34 p.m.

That’s why you were great in co10

Danger!? Luka!

I obviously would do a great job(I don’t know what traitor does)

Like basically they r with mafia but mafia doesn’t know who they r

so I'd have been cross if i rolled it and got recruited

I thought traitor was just +1 mafia member

charlie

Like basically they r with mafia but mafia doesn’t know who they r

So uh lost wolf

Unless they r recruited

Mafia doesnt know traitor

1:35 p.m.

Traitor doesnt know maf

1:35 p.m.

Unless recruited ofc

So traitor is just lost wolf

1:35 p.m.

Okay

Oh I thought traitor knows who mafia is

But traitor has 1s bp

Is traitor confirmed here

So mafia cant kill them

Ngekop

But traitor has 1s bp

Wow

I was busy to read

Oky so

1:35 p.m.

Mafia can find them if there is no kills

I mean

1:36 p.m.

If mafia kills someone and no one dies

or rolecop them if they picked that

Either the killing mafia got rb’d

1:36 p.m.

Or they attacked the traitor

Or the guy was healed if there's doctor ig

1:36 p.m.

Just claim to be traitor then

1:36 p.m.

doctor...?

I don’t think we have doctor in this setup

There’s no doc

1:36 p.m.

There’s a bg

1:36 p.m.

Which is

1:36 p.m.

Weak

1:36 p.m.

Af

Oh shoot

And i hate it

We have a bg which is the same thing

BG suicide yay

Kinda

1:37 p.m.

Not rly

No it isnt

1:37 p.m.

Tf are you on

1:37 p.m.

Yes bg suicide

Doesn’t bg die tho

Lmao

Ngekop

Tf are you on

3 hours of sleep

They die over their target

It’s similar

So like let’s say mafia attacks keaton

1:37 p.m.

They kill keaton

1:37 p.m.

Or kill the bg for free

Can mafia kill itself

And THEN kill keaton

Ph this might be early but

keaton is literally going to die tn

KadanRay

Can mafia kill itself

Doubt it

Rest in peace Keaton

does this version of BG kill the killing target

rip

You will be missed

I mean kill the killing mafia

@Deleted User solve the game before u

charlie

keaton is literally going to die tn

Keaton or bg

kirigiri

does this version of BG kill the killing target

No

1:38 p.m.

I told you

1:38 p.m.

This bg

1:38 p.m.

Is weak af

yeah so it's quite rubbish then

Ye

1:38 p.m.

Trust me i was bg last time this was played

1:38 p.m.

Annoying af role

this BG should protect Keaton though

I can’t help but laugh that Keaton is ic

I didnt even go on vig kirin yang

1:38 p.m.

N1

1:38 p.m.

He couldve died for all i cared

kirigiri

this BG should protect Keaton though

Unless another pr claims ye

kirigiri

this BG should protect Keaton though

Indeed

Keaton or bg is dying tn prob

having a confirmed town that will re-read D1

1:39 p.m.

is stronger than any PR

^^

1:39 p.m.

Well

1:39 p.m.

Ehhhh

Disagree but okay

nge shh

1:39 p.m.

even if you disagree back me up

It depends

I want towns to read l0l

No i def agree

1:40 p.m.

That bg should go on keaton

kirigiri

I want towns to read l0l

I am an expert at not reading

But saying that wont help either way

charlie

@Deleted User solve the game before u

go I forgot go

well unless you have some super OP PR like town rolecop

I dont see a scenario where mafia doesnt attack keaton tn

but we don't in this setup

The thing with keaton

If only town had a tos jailor

Is d1 he is just

1:40 p.m.

As us

That would be a really nice inclusion

But after a flip and some info

1:41 p.m.

He can do a looooot with that

1:41 p.m.

So yes

1:41 p.m.

Bg if existing

1:41 p.m.

Should go on keaton

So we r hoping bg saves Keaton so Keaton can quickly get the game going

BG flipping and dying is also not too bad - confirms that the role exists and reduces the scum claimspace

Danger!? Luka!

That would be a really nice inclusion

This is already lowkey townsided

1:42 p.m.

Imo

If maf just doenst stack the deck it’s scum sided

1:42 p.m.

With an innocent child it’s town sided

The thing if you only recruit traitor

I’m going to assume traitor is with mafia bc like why woudlnt they take traitor

Is there is 1/2 goon cop in game

1:43 p.m.

And if that happens you’re screwed lmao

More people on team the better

charlie

I’m going to assume traitor is with mafia bc like why woudlnt they take traitor

It gives town an extra pr

Hm

1:43 p.m.

Then nvm

Opposite to what luka said

1:43 p.m.

If luka’s town

Well it depends on who’s on the scum team and how they can work together

I’ll assume mafia didnt pick daytalk

why wouldn’t they pick daytalk tho

It also gives you claim space tbh

As maf I would always pick 3 here

If you do nothing

Cause that seems more fun

charlie

why wouldn’t they pick daytalk tho

Why tf would they lmao

1:44 p.m.

Daytalk isnt worth an extra pr

Would u not want to talk to them during they day

1:44 p.m.

Damn I would pick day talk

Yes but not at the expense of pr

1:44 p.m.

Bruh

1:44 p.m.

Ok nvm

1:44 p.m.

I cant assume that this time

1:44 p.m.

Zzz

you can talk to your maf in the open daychat

Why would anyone pick daytalk

people won't catch on

kirigiri

you can talk to your maf in the open daychat

^^

Ngekop

Why would anyone pick daytalk

I am not good at mafia

I have to talk to my scum partners during the day that’s why I would pick day talk

hey nge when it's EoD we all switch to calla right

kirigiri

people won't catch on

You’ve talked to nge today That’s suspicious

Zzz

kirigiri

hey nge when it's EoD we all switch to calla right

Damn

I mean

We going 3 for 3

You have pregame phase

1:45 p.m.

And can talk any night

I couldn't resist

kirigiri

hey nge when it's EoD we all switch to calla right

Just cfd off of me I’m lcoked town GabrielHalo

my community we talk in the day so like idk

Ngekop

You have pregame phase

Wait can mafia talk during this phase

If you fr just want to like talk during day

1:46 p.m.

Just do some codes pregame

Danger!? Luka!

Wait can mafia talk during this phase

Yes

is pregaming even allowed

…

charlie

is pregaming even allowed

???

Ngekop

Yes

That’s so stupid

see Nge's a level ahead

There is literally

LMAO calla

A pregame phase

They should have to use a pr for cordination

Bruh

Danger!? Luka!

That’s so stupid

No it isnt

WHERE IS THE PREGAME PHASE

is everyone gonna make townslip this day

Dude they need a pregame phase to stack the deck

1:47 p.m.

Omfg

I don't see it guys where is it trolley

maybe kadan's isn't really a townslip

Uh

but yeah that's funny

Luka might be town

1:47 p.m.

But i still hate his vote

1:47 p.m.

He can die

Ngekop

Dude they need a pregame phase to stack the deck

I thought it was just voting in private channels and they weren’t allowed to say something else ded

Danger!? Luka!

I thought it was just voting in private channels and they weren’t allowed to say something else ded

This this

Yeah luka just reads town based on this lol

Ngekop

But i still hate his vote

Waiting for you to explain your voting pattern kannasip

Wait nvm

1:48 p.m.

Luka can still be traitor

Danger!? Luka!

I thought it was just voting in private channels and they weren’t allowed to say something else ded

sub the 'they' for a 'we' and that's what he thought in his head amarothink

Danger!? Luka!

Waiting for you to explain your voting pattern kannasip

Bruh

1:48 p.m.

This isnt even worth my time honestly

Okay

kirigiri

sub the 'they' for a 'we' and that's what he thought in his head amarothink

This statement confuses me

“Explain your rvs pattern”

1:49 p.m.

Like why tf would i need to explain a weak vote

what's confusing about it

Oh r we RVS

This is what got you sr’d ne39

I asked if it was a joke / for reasons and you said you can’t answer that

And why you wouldve gotten lynched if there wasnt a gt’er

Danger!? Luka!

I asked if it was a joke / for reasons and you said you can’t answer that

Bc it’s literally

1:49 p.m.

In the line

I mean it'd be funny if when we opened the maf chat it was just you and one other guy not communicating

1:49 p.m.

just voting for the number of prs lmao

I voted bc i felt like it

Oh okay

Can you vote self

Ye

no you can't

Ngekop

And why you wouldve gotten lynched if there wasnt a gt’er

Wdym ne39 was a game where I was town

1:50 p.m.

You mean ne40?

charlie

Oh r we RVS

That’s not what i meant but w/e

Kaden is going to cook this game I feel it

There’s no point voting someone who is not even here in RVS

What’s Sam going to do about my vote

Nothing

yep

No one takes seriously any votes on them when they havent even talked

1:51 p.m.

Especially someone experienced

Do we know each other callahan

No sadly not

1:51 p.m.

I’m rocking with ur pfp tho

How can you tell I'm cooking

vibes

Oh yeah I'm the funny imp

1:52 p.m.

Not from botc

callan you've only played town on this server so far, correct

Yes

1:52 p.m.

I’m waiting to roll scum tho

It makes no sense to not be able to talk and just vote

Ice Sea

Ugh

1:52 p.m.

Like

Ngekop

No one takes seriously any votes on them when they havent even talked

Exactly!!

There are TWO people

Sam was scum last two games tho

1:52 p.m.

So they’re probably scum this game too

How do you make voting with TWO people who cant talk

Danger!? Luka!

So they’re probably scum this game too

True

1:53 p.m.

Sam got bad luck

I want to try being scum again

X: vote for rolecop and recruit

Luka I'm a bit intrigued

Y: vote for daytalk

you went after Nge for his vote on you

Host: wtf do i do here?

but you haven't said much to me regarding it

True

it's obvious that I didn't follow him given the timings

Especially bc mine was obv omgus

so what do you think I'm doing

I brought it up shortly Honestly I just sssumed my vote was dumb since I know for a fact you’re an experienced player

1:54 p.m.

And nge is also experienced

So is kiri

all my votes have a purpose

Kiri has played mafia for like

Unless you are they scum team which I doubt then I kind of just assumed I made a misplay

4x time i have

Ngekop

So is kiri

I said you’re an experienced player

well I started earlier but I wouldn't be surprised if nge has caught me up in sheer volume l0l

kirigiri

so what do you think I'm doing

As said I assumed I made a misplay and kind of dropped it

1:55 p.m.

Which is also partly why I changed my vote today

I mean

1:55 p.m.

It’s funny how luka questioned more my vote on kadan

1:55 p.m.

Than kiri’s vote on him

I love shading people pingu

do you think my vote is reasonable if you take me as playing the same way sas nge - i.e. not voting players yet to speak

Luka is just my teammate

1:55 p.m.

Chill bro

or rather, you don't think there's someone I should be voting instead, even early into the day

kirigiri

do you think my vote is reasonable if you take me as playing the same way sas nge - i.e. not voting players yet to speak

I think your vote is reasonable there because both you and nge voted At least one town is there imo and I know you both are experienced players, ie; I’ve done something wrong

kirigiri

or rather, you don't think there's someone I should be voting instead, even early into the day

Nope! I’m not very good at scum reading

Danger!? Luka!

I think your vote is reasonable there because both you and nge voted At least one town is there imo and I know you both are experienced players, ie; I’ve done something wrong

But you go after me

1:57 p.m.

Over kiri

I didn’t go after you for voting me I don’t think

1:57 p.m.

Lol

KEATON

1:57 p.m.

HI

Danger!? Luka!

Nope! I’m not very good at scum reading

on D1 especially, usually no-one is!

Did mafia pick me as Innocent child?

Question

Hi.

I went after you for prior votes, but I didnt go after you for voting me

How do you feel

1:58 p.m.

About being IC

but better to try than to not say anything

Deleted User

Did mafia pick me as Innocent child?

No

1:58 p.m.

Pr’s are randomized

Ngekop

About being IC

Horrible. What a horrible role.

Mafia doesnt even pick the pr’s in game

1:58 p.m.

Just the amount of

Deleted User

Horrible. What a horrible role.

Well

1:58 p.m.

Uhm yes

1:58 p.m.

But

1:58 p.m.

Bg is worse

1:58 p.m.

:D

kirigiri

on D1 especially, usually no-one is!

either way atp I cant say im confident / semi confident anybody here is scum Kadan is probably the person I like the least simply because I hate it when people joke about being scum buddys with other people lol

fairy nuff

I'm on a time limit compared to everybody else.

1:59 p.m.

Which is not good.

Deleted User

I'm on a time limit compared to everybody else.

Bg worse

1:59 p.m.

Bg’s job is to die tn if they exist

@KadanRay what's your experience with mafia

Let me read.

I think if mafia picked no extra stuff and both pr’s are IC+BG

2:00 p.m.

This is then EXTREMELY scumsided

kirigiri

@KadanRay what's your experience with mafia

Played ToS 1/2, Untrusted a bit Enjoyed ToL a lot So I can say I'm experienced enough for this

2:00 p.m.

Oh I also play botc

yeah just after I asked I realised

Deleted User

Let me read.

Solve solve solve

you do give off ToS vibes

Anyways

so cool, you would be familiar with the concept of Town Doctors

Luka imo

KadanRay

Played ToS 1/2, Untrusted a bit Enjoyed ToL a lot So I can say I'm experienced enough for this

ooo how much hours do you have on TOS

Def slipped not og maf

kirigiri

you do give off ToS vibes

do I give off TOS vibes

He’s at worst traitor imo

ive played the game alot

Ngekop

He’s at worst traitor imo

I wouldn't have guessed that no

2:02 p.m.

well, I was about to say similar for Kadan

kirigiri

I wouldn't have guessed that no

Love being in 2 games at the same time fr

BOTC is my main game now but i used to play it alot

do you agree? as in his ignorance of the possible PRs would be more likely as town than as mafia

2:03 p.m.

be back in about 30

kirigiri

do you agree? as in his ignorance of the possible PRs would be more likely as town than as mafia

I dont really know what you mean by this I honestly think its really nai Both scum and town if they didnt look at what PRs might spawn might think doc is a possible pr

2:04 p.m.

I guess its slightly more town since maf would probably be more careful with it

@Danger!? Luka! Is this your first Ma55?

this is my first time playing stack the deck

Deleted User

@Danger!? Luka! Is this your first Ma55?

This is everyone’s first ma55

2:05 p.m.

Bro

2:05 p.m.

What

Format.

2:06 p.m.

Is what I mean.

ive played ma54 and ma53 if thats what youre asking

I worded that wrong.

kirigiri

do you agree? as in his ignorance of the possible PRs would be more likely as town than as mafia

Where?

but this is my first time playing stack the deck

Yeah. That's what I mean. I thought Ma55 was all stack the deck.

2:07 p.m.

I'm wording this wrong.

2:07 p.m.

But, you know what I mean.

anyways im going to try to re-get to masters in yugioh today after ladder reset so I might be less active here

2:07 p.m.

ill still pay attention tho

Danger!? Luka!

ooo how much hours do you have on TOS

Maybe 100-200?

2:09 p.m.

I don't remember

2:09 p.m.

Not on pc rn

oh

2:09 p.m.

I have 900

2:09 p.m.

thats boring

Yeah I'm not a frequent SDG player

2:10 p.m.

More like RP guy

oh I like RP

2:11 p.m.

nice

I'm a GURPS nerd if you know this system

2:14 p.m.

Luka you gotta be town...! Let's lynch scum together

2:14 p.m.

Let's vote bump

2:15 p.m.

Bump’s playing?

Yeah

2:15 p.m.

I just checked

Same

charlie

@Deleted User solve the game before u

Okay.

In the end it's less confusing bump

2:15 p.m.

Better done with early

I know this is a bit off topic but my dogs sitting in my lap and they're adorable Theyve been in my lap alot recently

2:16 p.m.

anyways back on topic

I'm caring after 7 pups and it's annoying

Who do we think is scum

KadanRay

I'm caring after 7 pups and it's annoying

aw adorable

Back to this game

2:18 p.m.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

2:19 p.m.

Yeah sam/gc at the very least

Ngekop

Yeah sam/gc at the very least

They havent said anyting yet and appear to be offline

Exactly

Games only been going on for less than an hour idt pushing afks is very lucrative

There are several relevant people missing

Danger!? Luka!

Games only been going on for less than an hour idt pushing afks is very lucrative

Who’s pushing afk’s

Well im here and im all you need

Ngekop

Who’s pushing afk’s

oh I thought you were going to suggest voting them

Also you’re the one

2:20 p.m.

Voting sam

2:20 p.m.

With callahan

Ngekop

Voting sam

they were scum last 2 games

2:20 p.m.

they must be scum this game as well

Danger!? Luka!

oh I thought you were going to suggest voting them

Im not stupid

(the vote is very much a joke)

Ngekop

Im not stupid

sorry

If they are town they are valuable members lmao

Danger!? Luka!

(the vote is very much a joke)

Hipocrisy fun

Ngekop

Hipocrisy fun

Where

Hypocrisy

2:21 p.m.

****

Where

Danger!? Luka!

(the vote is very much a joke)

?

2:21 p.m.

Hi keaton

Where is the hipocrosy

2:21 p.m.

I asked you if your votes were jokes

2:21 p.m.

you said you cant answer that

Then said

2:21 p.m.

“Waiting for you to explain”

cuz I was

Danger!? Luka!

you said you cant answer that

Yeah bc i cant

since they werent joke votes

2:21 p.m.

according to you

What complicates this setup is the existence of a confirmed traitor, making it impossible to dismiss innocence based on unawareness of mafia communication before the game started. As a result, Kaden, Luka, and Callahan are all potential candidates for suspicion, despite their seemingly innocent remarks. This is not what I wanted to work with.

I just felt like voting that

okay then

Just trust me Keaton

so it isnt hipocrasy

You gotta do that

Deleted User

What complicates this setup is the existence of a confirmed traitor, making it impossible to dismiss innocence based on unawareness of mafia communication before the game started. As a result, Kaden, Luka, and Callahan are all potential candidates for suspicion, despite their seemingly innocent remarks. This is not what I wanted to work with.

Luka is traitor at worst

Greetings

Hi gc

2:22 p.m.

Nice

2:22 p.m.

Hope you’re town

Ngekop

Luka is traitor at worst

Is there a reason that you came to that conclusion?

Was gonna start later but the movie never started at the movie theatre ReallyMad

2:23 p.m.

And yes I am town

Everybody at worst could be the traitor or mafia.

Deleted User

What complicates this setup is the existence of a confirmed traitor, making it impossible to dismiss innocence based on unawareness of mafia communication before the game started. As a result, Kaden, Luka, and Callahan are all potential candidates for suspicion, despite their seemingly innocent remarks. This is not what I wanted to work with.

@Deleted User i get why you would want to not say they are towny for that thing

2:23 p.m.

But why

2:23 p.m.

Candidates for sus

Deleted User

Is there a reason that you came to that conclusion?

Yeah he seemed to genuinely not know mafia could talk in pregame phase

2:24 p.m.

Idt he’d fake that as maf

2:24 p.m.

(Unleeeeesss he is recruited traitor who got that same reaction when joining mafia chat and seeing they could talk pregame phase and trying to replicate that)

Ngekop

Yeah he seemed to genuinely not know mafia could talk in pregame phase

Callahan as well did, but I know she drops townie lines all the time.

But still idt he’d be og mafia

Deleted User

Callahan as well did, but I know she drops townie lines all the time.

Yeah

2:25 p.m.

Tbh im lowkey leaving the callahan solve to you

2:25 p.m.

I'll catch up for now

I have gone second in yugioh 5 games in a row MikuMad

Can you solve me please

Dont get me wrong i’ll also read her n stuff

I would love some attention

KadanRay

Can you solve me please

scum

Aw

But idt i’ll really be sold on my own on any alignment she can have

Well I'm big town guy

2:26 p.m.

Just trust

Callahan did townslip like 10 times

2:26 p.m.

Thi

2:26 p.m.

Tho*

charlie

I’m waiting to roll scum tho

This sounds so innocent from Callahan, but knowing her the townie lines just drop all the time. She can replicate them so easily as scum.

Like saying she’d pick daytalk and when asking why wouldnt maf recruit traitor and be like ok nvm when told that would just give mafia an extra pr

2:27 p.m.

I mean town*

Ngekop

Where?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138526122364112926 this one Nge

Hi kiri

hi

2:27 p.m.

oh you're voting me also

kirigiri

oh you're voting me also

True

same old same old

Idk many people seemed to be townslipping

2:28 p.m.

And you seemed to be bothered about that

Maybe afk people are mafia

it is bothering

All townie woke up as supposed to

if I bite all of them and one is wrong egg on my face

I mean but it does help narrow down stuff

2:29 p.m.

Especially regarding tmi

2:29 p.m.

If they end up being scum

I think callahan's is the cleanest, turning over Kadan and Luka's in my head

mine is real please just me <3

I caught too townslips in ma47, then started to distrust them and voila they're both town, so I guess I have some form for noticing true ones initially

2:30 p.m.

@Deleted User does calla have form for feigning ignorance of mechanics as scum to appear like town?

I believe luka

I do believe luka’s but i can see it coming from traitor

if we take them to be true it's still quite useful

2:34 p.m.

if mafia picked recruit+daychat for instance

Bruh

then the information gap closes

If mafia picked daychat

2:35 p.m.

I’ll be fr disappointed

2:35 p.m.

But it’ll also complicate things

it's an attractive crutch

Bc it does make some doubt n stuff around pr claims

we'll cross that bridge when we come to it

Bc like you wont ever have evidence about whether there is daytalk or not

2:36 p.m.

So if there isnt and a mafia claims pr

for now we already have some leading info with IC's presence

They can argue “they have daytalk”

kirigiri

@Deleted User does calla have form for feigning ignorance of mechanics as scum to appear like town?

Callahan drops town lines in any alignment. My main concern is if she happens to be scum. Her use of town-like lines at the start can make her appear convincingly as town. Callahan excels at playing scum, and given the presence of a traitor in the game, it's challenging to immediately confirm her alignment.

Deleted User

Callahan drops town lines in any alignment. My main concern is if she happens to be scum. Her use of town-like lines at the start can make her appear convincingly as town. Callahan excels at playing scum, and given the presence of a traitor in the game, it's challenging to immediately confirm her alignment.

I think we can try to like

I rather Callahan town than anything, because she will follow my lead.

Read stuff apart yk

2:37 p.m.

Mafia imo 9/10 times recruit traitor

2:37 p.m.

Which makes them just 3 mafias that know each other

i see, but I suppose there's different degrees, for instance feigning ignorance is a conscious choice that maf don't always think to do, esp in that specific way https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138528787055775916

Callahan does that though.

So like common team

okay then

I'm town lol I did not roll scum

Talking talking

if one were to know three people could only be traitor and not informed scum, that would still be far from usless

Hi kirin

Deleted User

I rather Callahan town than anything, because she will follow my lead.

Okay I'll follow ur lead

charlie

Okay I'll follow ur lead

All town should.

Keaton

2:41 p.m.

Js

2:42 p.m.

This table imo

2:42 p.m.

Has a way higher avg

2:42 p.m.

Of like level

2:42 p.m.

Than the previous one

What do you mean?

Well

2:43 p.m.

It is likely you wont be just sheeped but this time bc of more players being capable of making their own reads and sharing them out and make up their own mind instead of people who just got annoyed at you

Okay. That's good to hear. A strong town is what is needed.

Like i think i at least can say that about

2:46 p.m.

Sam

2:46 p.m.

Kiri

2:46 p.m.

Gamecube

2:46 p.m.

Ig callahan

2:46 p.m.

Myself

2:47 p.m.

You

2:47 p.m.

There are AT LEAST 3 good towns

2:47 p.m.

Luka is also good imo

2:47 p.m.

Kadan seems fine as well but havent really played with him

If we are going to assume mafia took the traitor. Luka and Kaden are town. For a newcomer to stack the deck, Luka might be unaware of how the mafia team decides on things, if they're playing as town. I believe it's clear that the mafia team communicated prior to the game, but those who aren't analyzing the format closely might not be aware of it. Kaden’s mention of a doctor was quite surprising, given that there's no doctor in the setup. I'm confident that the mafia extensively discussed the various scenarios before the game began, including how they would navigate each possible town role. This of course is only on the stance that mafia did take the traitor. We don't know. I'm not sure if there is a way for us to confirm if they did or not, most likely not.

Don't see why they wouldn't

2:53 p.m.

If the traitor acts towny all game and becomes mafia later then sure that's good for maf

I mean

But that's out of mafia control since the traitor would be an unknown player

2:53 p.m.

SO not realiable

There is a bg

2:53 p.m.

So like

2:54 p.m.

Kadan can just mean doc for TP role

How do we know there is a BG?

maf doesnt know thers a bg either

There is a bg in the roleset

just ignore it

But, we don't know if it's chosen.

they know the role is possible though

Deleted User

But, we don't know if it's chosen.

No one knows

2:54 p.m.

Lol

Yeah.

Except the bg if they exist

2:55 p.m.

Not even the mafia knows if there’s a bg rn

2:55 p.m.

What is luka doing

Deleted User

How do we know there is a BG?

I dont like this

…

at worst thats a pr slip

2:55 p.m.

since maf odenst know if a bg is in game either

Keaton is townlocked Luka

………

Lol.

Gamecube

Keaton is townlocked Luka

PH

…………………..

APGOKGA

Luka is town.

Think so

I wouldn;t say that

Sadly

Gamecube

I wouldn;t say that

I think he is traitor or town

2:56 p.m.

Leaning town

Would it be because of the slip?

2:56 p.m.

pregame thing?

Interesting vote

Danger!? Luka!

APGOKGA

sounds like a Xhosa surname

Deleted User

If we are going to assume mafia took the traitor. Luka and Kaden are town. For a newcomer to stack the deck, Luka might be unaware of how the mafia team decides on things, if they're playing as town. I believe it's clear that the mafia team communicated prior to the game, but those who aren't analyzing the format closely might not be aware of it. Kaden’s mention of a doctor was quite surprising, given that there's no doctor in the setup. I'm confident that the mafia extensively discussed the various scenarios before the game began, including how they would navigate each possible town role. This of course is only on the stance that mafia did take the traitor. We don't know. I'm not sure if there is a way for us to confirm if they did or not, most likely not.

Callahan is excused from this even though they did things similar to Luka.

mine Ngekop?

I would assume so

well to quote the late Bud Grant

Deleted User

Callahan is excused from this even though they did things similar to Luka.

Bruh

it seems like the thing to do

kirigiri

mine Ngekop?

Mhm

2:58 p.m.

Callahan wow

2:58 p.m.

Did you actually roll scum for once?

2:58 p.m.

I would like to know why Luka is considered town though. All he's done is be confused from what I've seen

Ngekop

Did you actually roll scum for once?

I literally wish

Gamecube

I would like to know why Luka is considered town though. All he's done is be confused from what I've seen

well unless you think he faked the townslip

2:59 p.m.

I think that’s enough to tl him

charlie

I literally wish

And it became true

Gamecube

I would like to know why Luka is considered town though. All he's done is be confused from what I've seen

the charm I have locks me as a town slip

Didnt it

Ur right

2:59 p.m.

U caught me

have you read from the top yet gamecube?

i did everything so far

Ok kiri getting better

3:00 p.m.

well so you've seen everything I've seen

charlie

Stop trolling. I expect you to solve the game as well and not just depend on me. I'm dying in 1-2 days.

Deleted User

Stop trolling. I expect you to solve the game as well and not just depend on me. I'm dying in 1-2 days.

I'm literally going to cook soon

what are you making calla

Uh

theyre probably trying to make a scum win

Idk yet

I don't think they are of town. Townlean sure but the logic is assuming mafia is an entity in which every member is paying careful attention to the setup. Plus traitor could have not looked either whether or not they were recruited.

3:02 p.m.

townloacked sorry

charlie

Idk yet

you're a peep in the fridge and just decide there and then kinda gal

Gamecube

I don't think they are of town. Townlean sure but the logic is assuming mafia is an entity in which every member is paying careful attention to the setup. Plus traitor could have not looked either whether or not they were recruited.

I said he could be traitor

3:03 p.m.

But mafia doesnt need to pay strong attention

3:03 p.m.

To notice

3:03 p.m.

They can talk pregame

3:04 p.m.

Zzz

I mean feigning ignorance is a easy thing to do here

It really is

(i cheated today just hada prepackaged Indian)

Yeah but that read genuine to me

But the statement also applies to the doctor thing

kirigiri

(i cheated today just hada prepackaged Indian)

Oooo

Gamecube

But the statement also applies to the doctor thing

That is easier to fake imo

Deleted User

If we are going to assume mafia took the traitor. Luka and Kaden are town. For a newcomer to stack the deck, Luka might be unaware of how the mafia team decides on things, if they're playing as town. I believe it's clear that the mafia team communicated prior to the game, but those who aren't analyzing the format closely might not be aware of it. Kaden’s mention of a doctor was quite surprising, given that there's no doctor in the setup. I'm confident that the mafia extensively discussed the various scenarios before the game began, including how they would navigate each possible town role. This of course is only on the stance that mafia did take the traitor. We don't know. I'm not sure if there is a way for us to confirm if they did or not, most likely not.

But with what Keaton said

Especially bc even if genuine

Scum should of talked about every single possible town role

It isnt hard for mafia to not be thaaaaaaat invested in knowing every single pr

3:05 p.m.

Like they should but they could have not

3:05 p.m.

Which doesnt really apply to the ability to talk pregame

If depends on who is scum

3:05 p.m.

Like if ifs like a strong scum plauer

Gamecube

I mean feigning ignorance is a easy thing to do here

hmmmm, it can be done but pulling it off as scum requires a bit of panache

They would do that

Yeah ofc

But if it’s a weaker scum team they wouldn’t

3:06 p.m.

Either way scum is going to recruit traitor most likely for numbers

as in, when you're informed you have to think about what would be plausible to be ignorant about, choose something, then hope there's a natural point in the conversation to bring it up

I think luka is good but again that felt genuine especially bc it came in the moment

3:06 p.m.

It’s not like he couldve planned it

3:06 p.m.

Or think it through before saying that

3:06 p.m.

It was almost reactive

That's true it does need to appear organic to the conversation

Most people who try to solve it are town for me, Luka is town for me too

You would need quick thinking for it

Then again

3:07 p.m.

Luka can be traitor

3:07 p.m.

Recruited/unrecruited either

Ok true but I believe in Luka

But doubt he’s og maf

only thing causing me to doubt callahan right at the moment is that Keaton vouches that she has that play in her scumrange

We love how Keaton snitches on me

Heyyyy

But I’m truely town

3:08 p.m.

HI

Hi bump

I just landed

3:08 p.m.

I'm

Where

not gonna be too active

quack

in the next hour or so

3:08 p.m.

Punta Cana

charlie

U caught me

I dont like how calla denied being scum and then right after agreed to it as if playing it off like a joke Obviously the original accusation wasnt super super serious but that seems more like a scum thing to do

Oh nice

Danger!? Luka!

I dont like how calla denied being scum and then right after agreed to it as if playing it off like a joke Obviously the original accusation wasnt super super serious but that seems more like a scum thing to do

Bro…

I'm scummy hi

charlie

We love how Keaton snitches on me

everyone needs a narc

Do check me

Ngekop

Bro…

<3

nge and I will do each other in if necessary

3:11 p.m.

Kadan I won't lie

3:11 p.m.

you are, absent your mention of the doctor, not especially towny

3:11 p.m.

to my eyes

No one is

3:11 p.m.

But thank you for your opinion

3:12 p.m.

Except child

there's levels to it

Danger!? Luka!

I dont like this

Luka were you trolling here

no my reads are just bad

but I feel like I might have seen something from you by now that I could grasp hold of

3:13 p.m.

there's a bit of a peanut-gallery vibe I'm getting from you Kadan, if that makes sense

Peanut gallery?

I don't see the goal with the post, how could you have missed Keaton being child? Besides this is just pr hunting

I'm not a native speaker sorry

In a context where traitor may not be in contact with mafia

as in making comments without seeming invested

Yeah it's due to being a bit busy and being in 4 other games

3:14 p.m.

Two of which I host

3:14 p.m.

damn

3:14 p.m.

sounds hectic

I just know I'm town so I just chill

well, just saying people like you tend to end up surviving to the endgame

3:15 p.m.

are you prepared for that?

I usually die N1 whenever I'm solving game (end up correct in most times) so yeah I'm happy with staying alive

Uh i doubt luka and kiri are both scum ever

Luka is town to me

3:16 p.m.

Ez game

3:17 p.m.

Child goes first then Luka

3:17 p.m.

Then other maf will try to twist my townslip into maf play

KadanRay

Luka is town to me

you're very sure about this

Yeah

I doubt all mafias have talked

3:17 p.m.

Tbh

I actually do think mafias are afk

3:18 p.m.

Lol

child's not going first

4 people havent talked

3:18 p.m.

its possible no maf have spoken yet

Ngekop

I doubt all mafias have talked

there's only three who haven't

or, all maf spoken too

Unlikely tho

3:18 p.m.

My guess would be 1 has talked

3:18 p.m.

Idk if 2

who's left dec wizard sam?

dec and yang have both given one line

Ok tbh

im not comfident on giving a read on this matter so I just wont

Yeah

Cute

Let’s not count dec and bump and kirin

3:19 p.m.

As having talked

so wizard/hayeskerr and sam to speak

3:19 p.m.

dec and yang both very squidgy slots

Hm

Less than usual at least

Ugh most of the people who have talked (fr) look more towny than scummy

Ngekop

Ugh most of the people who have talked (fr) look more towny than scummy

@MIH i need you ;-;

kirigiri

Wow that emoji

3:26 p.m.

The name

3:26 p.m.

Damn i miss her again now

I only have one more day I can post it

F

3:28 p.m.

@Gamecube any thoughts?

Gamecube

I don't see the goal with the post, how could you have missed Keaton being child? Besides this is just pr hunting

The worst part is he did notice

3:32 p.m.

He even said smth about IC being in game

I do have something to say

3:35 p.m.

Give me a minute

Gamecube

I don't see the goal with the post, how could you have missed Keaton being child? Besides this is just pr hunting

I knew keaton was child, I just forgot I voted keaton for what I believed to be PR hunting from the get go lol

What?

?

Yeah I kinda forgot Keaton was child minute after lol

3:36 p.m.

Oh boy

3:52 p.m.

As for what I wanted to say, I say we go over everyone who has talked so far. I'm not free for a little but I'll return shortly

3:52 p.m.

We make a list of most sus excluding those with townslips

3:53 p.m.

Then see if there's anything there

we?

3:54 p.m.

you do that if you want to

Wasn't going to force anyone

just wondered what you expected, am not sure tbh

I'm just saying what I think we as a collective should do

if you had to guess how many maf do youthink have spoken more than one line

3:56 p.m.

is it ever 3

Someone had to have spoken

well by virture of the fact that there are only 2 zero-liners yes

3:56 p.m.

but 2 ones

3:57 p.m.

bump has just popped in and said hi and not much else

Sure it's possible

3 in the 7 from your pov, and one of the 7 is Keaton

3:58 p.m.

so [nge/callahan/me/luka/kadan/bump]

3:58 p.m.

you really think that ever has all 3

Never said it did

you just said 'sure that's possible'

You asked if there were 3 out of the non talkers

I meant 3 in the talkers

3:59 p.m.

alas, guess we got our wires crossed

hmm

3 in the non-talkers would similarly be wacky, given that that includes two who have been present enough to give one line

For now the only person I dislike on my first read is Luka

mafia doesn't win without exerting some control

Personally I'd think mafia would at least have one member participating in the discussion so far.

4:03 p.m.

Don't think it's something we could really speculate on as activity could be influenced by responsabilities

4:03 p.m.

Though I do think it's possible for mafia to have been uncomfortable with all the discussion about townslips

well, you seem to be implying that there should be a maf in the talkers given what you proposed

can't read people who haven't talked

Gamecube

Though I do think it's possible for mafia to have been uncomfortable with all the discussion about townslips

weak mafia maybe

I don't see the point your making here though, my proposal was to analyze those who have talked because those are the people who opinions could be formed on

4:07 p.m.

reading kirin or dec is pointless

more as in if I were to do what you're doing may as well wait til we've got substantive contributions from everyone

4:09 p.m.

I don't really like ranked readlists in general, not so useful imo

4:10 p.m.

but at this stage in the game even less point when you and I both know it's not gonna affect the game

I think bump is one of the evils (hunch), luka is town and that's it

4:15 p.m.

Guess we'll just live to see what's next for more spicy info and deductions

Eh

4:17 p.m.

I need to stop being afraid of being wrong or smth honestly

4:17 p.m.

Or to just push while not being fully confident

To say I'm not rng voting I'll say bump was process of elimination

But yeah i cant get anywhere

Every active person has either “townslipped”

4:18 p.m.

Or said/done smth towny

Try hard solving/slipping

4:18 p.m.

That's it

4:19 p.m.

I can do both but luka seems genuine to me

I mean

4:21 p.m.

I think luka’s and callahan’s are genuine

4:21 p.m.

But i also think traitor can easily be in there

Idk about Callahan ;)

4:26 p.m.

I'm not paying as much attention as I could have because other games

4:26 p.m.

Mb here tho

Currently, I don't see the value in identifying the traitor. Our priority should be determining the mafia members. Uncovering the traitor's identity can wait, given the numerous uncertainties surrounding the situation.

Traitor is in discussion because of the townslips

4:37 p.m.

I didn't get the impression people were actively trying to lynch traitor

so for D1 you'd say luka/kadan/calla out of the lynchpool hm

4:39 p.m.

I think I can get behind that

For D1 I'm won't put up a fight

4:42 p.m.

Kadan's doctor post is the weakest there

Gamecube

Traitor is in discussion because of the townslips

We keep talking about the same information over and over again. It's not adding anything to the discussion anymore.

Hey

4:44 p.m.

I have

4:44 p.m.

wifi

It is useless now. Time to move on.

What in the fuck is that voting channel

Deleted User

It is useless now. Time to move on.

Okay but nobody was hunting the traitor to begin with

mmm where's the votecounts

Anyways Keaton/Sam scum team just cuz itd be hilarious

oh not again

kirigiri

bump has just popped in and said hi and not much else

terribly sorry

And I think saying Luka or whoever was mentioned could be traitor is worth saying

Hi bump

no need to apologise bump

But I dont have the cash for international data

Tell me your credentials

oh it was sarcastic

4:47 p.m.

anyways

4:47 p.m.

Huhh gimme time to read back?

Okie

4:48 p.m.

Go ahead boi

(I prolly wont)

Yeah no need

(Just got to the hotel)

4:48 p.m.

No need im scumlock?

4:48 p.m.

or no need nothing relevant

4:48 p.m.

Basically just few townslip statements and tryhard solving

4:48 p.m.

As usual

KadanRay

Basically just few townslip statements and tryhard solving

Townslips were relevant in my time

4:48 p.m.

Now it's just anyone can fake or genuinely put them on the spotlight

Gamecube

And I think saying Luka or whoever was mentioned could be traitor is worth saying

This is you?

You could probably scroll a little higher to see townslip list

Btw I'm town

4:49 p.m.

oops i slipped

Deleted User

This is you?

Yeah hi how are you

I mean I did slip with doctor only

4:49 p.m.

Uhh because other game

4:49 p.m.

What's your point Keaton

Gamecube

Yeah hi how are you

You are hunting for traitor in that post?

No I'm quoting what was said earlier

wait what's the "keaton is town" message

4:50 p.m.

WAIT

I wrote Whoever was mentioned

is that inno child

Yes

Oooh

4:51 p.m.

Welp gg Keaton your sacrifice will be remembered

Dw they're dying N1 or N2 so don't count on them leading

4:52 p.m.

Yeah

Seany148

Anyways Keaton/Sam scum team just cuz itd be hilarious

fuck

4:52 p.m.

the funny didn't happen

I don't know these people so what is funny

Deleted User

You are hunting for traitor in that post?

There's hasn't been discussion on lynching traitor Keaton. The only discussion was players pointing at that someone could be which is what I was referring to.

KadanRay

I don't know these people so what is funny

Gamecube

There's hasn't been discussion on lynching traitor Keaton. The only discussion was players pointing at that someone could be which is what I was referring to.

Which is hunting for traitor?

4:53 p.m.

We are talking about hunting not lynching.

I'm the Hunter

Okay so what's the problem then

Deleted User

Currently, I don't see the value in identifying the traitor. Our priority should be determining the mafia members. Uncovering the traitor's identity can wait, given the numerous uncertainties surrounding the situation.

This is what I said.

My role says I shall hunt a throw

Should people not discuss then

~~So I'm hunting myself~~

Besides my point still stands people are focussing on mafia anyways

omfg

I need you to reread what I said, because I did not talk about lynching.

it's soooo hot here

Deleted User

I need you to reread what I said, because I did not talk about lynching.

Yeah I realized that

4:57 p.m.

But again it hasn't been dominating conversation

4:57 p.m.

I'm not discussing this further it's a waste of time and is going nowhere

Okay

I find it unnecessary to continue discussing the traitor issue. I'm hoping to hear perspectives from new people rather than opinions from those who've already shared them. Otherwise, it feels like repetitive dialogue from people who've already voiced their thoughts.

Deleted User

Currently, I don't see the value in identifying the traitor. Our priority should be determining the mafia members. Uncovering the traitor's identity can wait, given the numerous uncertainties surrounding the situation.

I know, i think i even said that

4:59 p.m.

However when talking about townslips

4:59 p.m.

And potential traitor

5:00 p.m.

If traitor is recruited

5:00 p.m.

Then the townslips arent that clearing

Wait l

5:00 p.m.

Lemme

5:00 p.m.

read the setup

5:00 p.m.

Deleted User

We keep talking about the same information over and over again. It's not adding anything to the discussion anymore.

Agreed but there is nothing happening

I clearly am missing parts

It's literally D1 and my guys are solving game based on guessing the set-up

Ok so technically rn we could have 5 TPow?????

At max yea

5:02 p.m.

2 at minimum

damn

Seany148

Ok so technically rn we could have 5 TPow?????

We don't know

Should be an easy game then

Unless you do clueless

Yes I do know

5:03 p.m.

I am mafia Rolecop, my teammate is Keaton, we recruited Kadan

Perfect do tell me info I'm juggler

I'm juggler wtf bro

what's juggler

The funny guesser

?

It's botc sigh

ohhhh

5:05 p.m.

I don't like Nge's game so far

5:06 p.m.

Cuz there's no way in hell he actually thought about stuff with 418 messages in here trolley

am not sure what to make of Nge

5:07 p.m.

I like my vote where it is for now, absent new development

I only think luka is good for now

5:07 p.m.

ohwell

Seany148

I am mafia Rolecop, my teammate is Keaton, we recruited Kadan

True.

Ngekop

Agreed but there is nothing happening

Okay. Then let's make something happen.

5:16 p.m.

@charlie What are you thinking?

Seany148

Cuz there's no way in hell he actually thought about stuff with 418 messages in here trolley

What

Deleted User

Okay. Then let's make something happen.

Im a bit tired and hungry ngl

Okay.

If you want to i can help tho

5:19 p.m.

Just wont be making any extra effort on it

5:19 p.m.

What do you want me to tell you

5:20 p.m.

Kadan sounded towny to me when talking about wanting to stay alive and a lowkey frustration that comes up when he tries d1 and gets killed n1

5:20 p.m.

However him just repeating over and over luka town

5:20 p.m.

Even if at first was fair

5:21 p.m.

Isnt adding anything and it’s being a bit more insistent than i would like especially bc the last ones havent really been responding to someone saying luka could be maf (as in defending)

5:22 p.m.

For example last one being when no one asked and in response to kiri claiming not to know what to make of me

I think sudden read luka as town because slip and then painting them red is just sus so I dismiss it

5:22 p.m.

I'm not pointing fingers for now

5:22 p.m.

Because I want to stay alive

Yeah but no one was talking about luka that last time

5:22 p.m.

Kiri just said smth about a read on me and you came in saying that

I already forgot

5:23 p.m.

And well at least to me it felt like “well idk about nge all i know is luka is town, that is my read” when we already know and no one asked or was commenting on that

5:24 p.m.

@Deleted User but as you can see i didnt really get anywhere yet

Ngekop

Kadan sounded towny to me when talking about wanting to stay alive and a lowkey frustration that comes up when he tries d1 and gets killed n1

Scum can replicate that.

votes are 1/1/1/1/1

Ngekop

And well at least to me it felt like “well idk about nge all i know is luka is town, that is my read” when we already know and no one asked or was commenting on that

So what do you get from this information?

so I don't expect scum to really have any incentive to do anything rn

What is the conclusion?

??

Ngekop

@Deleted User but as you can see i didnt really get anywhere yet

^^

I think I get the point that Nge's making

Okay. Then I'm discarding what you said.

Lol

5:28 p.m.

Alright

If you can't get anywhere with that.

A good conclusion could be I can see Kaden pocketing Luka.

That kinda goes without saying imo

Then you should say it anyway because I didn't see it. I can't read your mind.

I pointed out smth i liked and what i didnt of someone to say smth

Deleted User

Then you should say it anyway because I didn't see it. I can't read your mind.

I mean

5:30 p.m.

The thing is if kadan is scum imo he is clearly pocketing luka

The argument: trust me I'm town just messing around

5:31 p.m.

But idk if what i said is enough to reach the conclusion that that has to be the case

5:32 p.m.

What i said could certainly support that

The argument: where's icet so i can mislynch them

But idt it’s even close to enough

shall we all just vote dec

What does pocketing mean btw

I think that that might be a fair thing to do

5:33 p.m.

what do you reckon

KadanRay

What does pocketing mean btw

You heavily clear someone to make yourself look townie

Oh I see

Well why Dec

5:35 p.m.

Short explanation please

~~Kadan about to pocket Dec:~~

if I have to explain it then there's no point

Ok let's go then

5:35 p.m.

Sheep vote

5:35 p.m.

I'm with you Danganronpa girl

@Ngekop I think given one thing that I have pointed you you've said

5:36 p.m.

you might agree that it's not a terrible idea

5:37 p.m.

pointed out that you've said*

kirigiri

shall we all just vote dec

Why dec over kirin

no special reason

5:37 p.m.

actually no

5:38 p.m.

that's not true

5:38 p.m.

there is a reason

5:38 p.m.

it's something we've both discussed about kirin in previous games

What's the point in voting Dec?

have to vote someone

You don't.

Deleted User

What's the point in voting Dec?

That he isnt doing anything and it can be detrimental

Deleted User

You don't.

Yes you do?

I suppose technically I don't have to say anything more than the minimum to avoid replacement

5:40 p.m.

but you and I both know it's preferable to not voting

Wagons forming is a plus

Are we voting Dec

5:40 p.m.

Yay

Gamecube

Wagons forming is a plus

Agreed

Dec's registered his presence in the game, so he's not been afk the whole time

I don’t want an afk in f3

and from past experience if there's something to talk about in the game he's usually not shy to do so

5:43 p.m.

i'm hoping for a LyLo F5

Dec usually doesn't do much day 1

Dec > kirin imo

so that afks can't screw it up

Ngekop

Yes you do?

Not right now?

5:44 p.m.

Nobody is forcing you to vote right now.

I mean

5:45 p.m.

Who cares anyways

5:45 p.m.

The only vote that matters is the one eod

Ngekop

That he isnt doing anything and it can be detrimental

Okay. So is half of player list?

Gamecube

Dec usually doesn't do much day 1

In my experience Dec doesn’t do much any day

the^

I think I could at least read Dec compared to Kirin so I'd prefer the latter

voting six people at once would be fun but alas impossible

and doesn't get us anywhere

on the contrary I think Kirin is much easier to read

5:46 p.m.

I tried to point this out oliquely to Nge but I guess I missed the mark

I'm getting scum vibes from Nge and idk why

I just disagree with that statement

mhm okay

Seany148

I'm getting scum vibes from Nge and idk why

Bro you say this every single game regardless

Ngekop

Bro you say this every single game regardless

I was gonna say that too LMFAO

kirigiri

on the contrary I think Kirin is much easier to read

For me it's becauwse I've played a lot less with Kirin than I have Dec

I've been 2/2 on him so far and, reading his previous games I think his scumgame and towngame are different in ways he struggles to control So whilst my sample size is admittedly small, I reckon I can still trust it to be better than random

I dont see how is kirin easy to read

5:48 p.m.

All i know is he is obvious as pr

5:48 p.m.

And if he is citizen he does nothing

5:49 p.m.

And if he is mafia he does nothing

Especially when he claims it

Ngekop

And if he is mafia he does nothing

all I'll say to that is not quite

Gamecube

Especially when he claims it

Yeah lmao

5:49 p.m.

But even when he doesnt

maybe he'll read this and actually just do sweet FA to try to merge

5:50 p.m.

but I doubt he reads everything

has anyone @ inactive players yet?

Deleted User

@charlie What are you thinking?

Nothing I have no thoughts rn bc not everybody has spoke

6:49 p.m.

Ig the vote on Dec is stupid

6:49 p.m.

when the reason is like he said one word and didn't add anything else and could be negative?

6:50 p.m.

The game just started so that hella stupid

6:50 p.m.

Thats

6:50 p.m.

Pretty sure kirin did the same thing

6:50 p.m.

So what's with that

6:51 p.m.

Sam and the wizard guy haven't spoke but like people aren't policying them the same way

6:51 p.m.

So why is dec just thrown under the bus

6:54 p.m.

Idk it's a bad wagon and a bad reason

why does that affect you so much

charlie

Sam and the wizard guy haven't spoke but like people aren't policying them the same way

they havent been here

6:59 p.m.

dec has

Ngekop

why does that affect you so much

I'm calling out a bad reason and a bad wagon??

Ngekop

dec has

So has kirin

The Dec wagon is dogwater.

7:01 p.m.

All Dec said was Hello.

Ik Ik

charlie

So has kirin

i know?

We have 48 hours and ur like voting a guy who said one thing when he could very well be busy

Deleted User

The Dec wagon is dogwater.

it isn't really

charlie

We have 48 hours and ur like voting a guy who said one thing when he could very well be busy

dec never does anything

Then u vote him?

i'm not even voting him

I’m saying to vote him if u don’t think it’s a bad wagon

that's stupid

obvious not to u?

7:04 p.m.

If u don’t think it’s a bad wagon

just bc you don't think a wagon is particularly bad

7:04 p.m.

doesnt mean you have to join it

7:04 p.m.

???

7:04 p.m.

like what

oh so ur like cool with some random guy being voted bc he said one word

7:04 p.m.

Even tho kirin did the same thing

aight this isnt worth my time arguing rn tbh

Callahan is right.

she isnt

7:05 p.m.

+ there's no guarantee this wagon will even stay like it is

7:05 p.m.

it in fact most likely wont

No. She is. She has every right to call out a bad wagon.

i dont support the wagon but y'all are acting like it is the end of the world

Deleted User

No. She is. She has every right to call out a bad wagon.

except this isnt one

7:06 p.m.

this is just a meh wagon

7:06 p.m.

and we have to get the ball rolling somewhere

Who's we? You aren't doing anything?

and idt complaining about it while you arent doing smth better or more useful

7:07 p.m.

isnt right

Deleted User

Who's we? You aren't doing anything?

we is collective

7:07 p.m.

and i am reading?

Sure.

and letting this happen rn

7:07 p.m.

bc there's no reason not to

Deleted User

Who's we? You aren't doing anything?

neither is callahan

7:08 p.m.

but ok

I don't see a purpose in this wagon or an end goal to it.

it's smth happening on the game, that's more than enough for me atm

7:09 p.m.

no one else is doing anything

You really shouldn't be defending a wagon you aren't on.

that's absurd

7:09 p.m.

especially when i'm openly saying i'm not against this happening rn

7:09 p.m.

doesnt mean i gotta vote dec

Ngekop

it isn't really

How is this not defending?

i never said i am not defending it?

7:10 p.m.

i'm saying you having to be voting in the wagon to defend it is absurd

What are you trying to achieve right now?

nothing particularly?

That's the problem.

lol

7:11 p.m.

i'm pointing out callahan's point isnt good

7:12 p.m.

especially when she isnt doing anything

7:12 p.m.

and this wagon is something

What have you done?

more than callahan certainly

Honestly. What have you done?

reading, explaining views on townslips and sharing thoughts on kadan

7:13 p.m.

what has callahan done? act like the only thing happening so far this game is the end of the world

Ngekop

reading, explaining views on townslips and sharing thoughts on kadan

Everybody is reading? Your views on townslips is basic.Your thoughts on Kadan lead nowhere I pointed that out.

even if dec is town, there's nothing wrong with him having 3-4 votes rn

Deleted User

Everybody is reading? Your views on townslips is basic.Your thoughts on Kadan lead nowhere I pointed that out.

clearly not to the first thing

7:14 p.m.

the second well i still pointed stuff out and gave views on it

I gave you a conclusion for your thoughts on Kaden.

callahan doesnt even get to basic

Deleted User

I gave you a conclusion for your thoughts on Kaden.

bro what's your problem

7:14 p.m.

bc i dont necessarily conclude that's the case

We don't have a problem?

i dont think necessarily

7:14 p.m.

that kadan is pocketing luka

7:14 p.m.

if kadan is scum however

7:14 p.m.

he certainly is

7:14 p.m.

meaning if kadan is scum

7:14 p.m.

then luka is not

7:14 p.m.

but i already said luka is at most traitor

7:14 p.m.

so that doesnt mean much

7:15 p.m.

so what's the point on saying that

7:15 p.m.

i'm saying some stuff i liked and disliked on kadan

7:15 p.m.

bc no one is saying anything

7:15 p.m.

if someone reads what i say they can elaborate further in one point

7:15 p.m.

or disagree somewhere

7:15 p.m.

or like anything

7:15 p.m.

but it can generate content

7:16 p.m.

which clearly is smth this game needs

7:16 p.m.

and a wagon on dec as basic as it can be is smth and y'all are trying to call it off

7:16 p.m.

if this was nearing eod then sure

7:17 p.m.

you can argue the wagon is dumb

Do u see this Keaton

bc it can actually lead to a lynch that can be useless

charlie

Do u see this Keaton

Yeah. Lol.

zzz

7:17 p.m.

omfg

Why are you freaking out so much?

@Danger!? Luka! wanna join me on callahan?

Deleted User

Why are you freaking out so much?

annoying when people are calling out smth dumb when what they are doing isnt better

7:18 p.m.

(or when they arent even doing anything)

Ngekop

annoying when people are calling out smth dumb when what they are doing isnt better

Pretty sure I'm doing better than you.

pretty sure you arent

why is the wagon on dec dumb? Even when multiple people are inactive, wouldnt at least voting out one inactive player be better/

7:19 p.m.

?

Hm.

Danger!? Luka!

why is the wagon on dec dumb? Even when multiple people are inactive, wouldnt at least voting out one inactive player be better/

It's dumb because there are so many other people doing the same thing.

Danger!? Luka!

why is the wagon on dec dumb? Even when multiple people are inactive, wouldnt at least voting out one inactive player be better/

for instance if dec gets lynched it's dumb to vote him before asking him to claim or smth

Deleted User

It's dumb because there are so many other people doing the same thing.

no

7:19 p.m.

lmao

7:19 p.m.

only dec and kirin

7:19 p.m.

Deleted User

It's dumb because there are so many other people doing the same thing.

yes but voting out one of those palyers is better

7:20 p.m.

also dec is like. ive never seen dec be active once

sam and wizard havent even had the chance to talk or say smth, they clearly arent here rn

Okay. So what if Dec is town?

kirin and dec just said one line and dipped

Deleted User

Okay. So what if Dec is town?

then he wont get mislynched later when it matters most?

7:20 p.m.

i dont remember the last time dec wasnt lynched as town at some point in the game

7:20 p.m.

bc he just doesnt do anything

7:21 p.m.

until d3

7:21 p.m.

if you dont have a clear vote outside

7:21 p.m.

it's a safe choice bc the worst scenario is you lynch a townie that wasnt going to contribute and that could be unreadable moving forward

@charlie Don’t you think it's odd that Ngekop is freaking out so much from a simple comment of Dec’s wagon is dumb?

...

7:21 p.m.

lol

7:22 p.m.

but you dont find callahan freaking out over a dec wagon 5 hours after daystart odd ok

7:22 p.m.

She didn't?

she def did more than i am rn?

7:22 p.m.

i'm not freaking out over that

I really didn't lol I just pointed out

i'm getting annoyed at you and that's it

charlie

I really didn't lol I just pointed out

?

Deleted User

@charlie Don’t you think it's odd that Ngekop is freaking out so much from a simple comment of Dec’s wagon is dumb?

Yeah 100%

7:23 p.m.

Idk I just think wagon is unjustified

Deleted User

Okay. So what if Dec is town?

an afk player is gone and wont be killed later

lol

They die before f5 no matter what I think its fine to kill them now

We should at least give dec some space before hounding on him with votes

i dont even plan on lynching dec necessarily but i wouldnt particularly mind it and my point is callahan is acting like this vote would stay like this

7:24 p.m.

for the day

Like why is Kaden even voting him

when there are over 40 hours left

But like ur defending it like u want it to stay

literally we could pile up 10 votes on keaton rn and it wouldnt do a thing

charlie

But like ur defending it like u want it to stay

that's not the case

Do u want a dec vote or not like I don't understand

me calling it not stupid =/= me wanting it to stay

charlie

Do u want a dec vote or not like I don't understand

...

7:25 p.m.

it's

7:25 p.m.

5

7:25 p.m.

hours

7:25 p.m.

into

7:25 p.m.

the day

yeah? U should vote who u want dead

how do you want me to know what vote i want

charlie

yeah? U should vote who u want dead

by eod yes

7:26 p.m.

throughout the day not necessarily

7:26 p.m.

i vote whoever i feel like voting which indeed is mostly the case being who i want dead

so ur voting me rn bc I called the wagon bad the reason bad

7:26 p.m.

can't tell if this is a emotional vote

bc of the seriousness you are taking this wagon thing

7:27 p.m.

while you arent doing anything better on your own or even trying

7:27 p.m.

you are calling the only thing happening in the game dumb

7:27 p.m.

while doing nothing yourself

7:27 p.m.

that just stops progression from happening

all u talked about was the traitor

at least i have talked about something

7:27 p.m.

?

and how Kaden was weird and then Keaton gave u a conclusion

charlie

and how Kaden was weird and then Keaton gave u a conclusion

all you have done is calling a not even fully serious wagon this early bad

7:28 p.m.

and that's it

Ngekop

at least i have talked about something

I talked about the wagon

7:28 p.m.

So that's a lie

7:28 p.m.

Don't lie

omfg

7:28 p.m.

y'all are focusing on the

7:28 p.m.

most meaningless things

7:28 p.m.

it's crazy

this is funny

zzz

charlie

this is funny

well

7:29 p.m.

now i know

7:29 p.m.

i should not take you seriously

7:29 p.m.

good to know

7:29 p.m.

going to eat now

7:29 p.m.

brb

U want something to happen and when something does happen and it’s directed at u then u freak out

7:29 p.m.

Be happy there is something going

Sih

7:30 p.m.

Sigh

Callahan is town. That’s good.

I dont freak out

7:30 p.m.

Over it going against me

7:30 p.m.

I freak out over people not making sense one way or another

7:32 p.m.

back on pc

7:32 p.m.

imma eat tho

7:32 p.m.

still

7:32 p.m.

y'all are calling smth that is better/more productive than anything you have done

7:32 p.m.

bad and stupid

7:32 p.m.

which is ironic

7:32 p.m.

No, I agree with Callahan's view. While it might have seemed like an overreaction to you, I saw it as her addressing something she disagreed with and found troubling. Although the votes and wagons can shift throughout the game, it's still valuable to highlight instances where a wagon is supported by weak reasoning.

well if you want to go there

7:36 p.m.

i can say if day ends in like

7:36 p.m.

20 minutes

7:36 p.m.

i'd probs vote dec

7:36 p.m.

bc i dont have a better lead rn

We all have expectations for this game's progression. I'm pleased that there's a difference of opinion regarding the wagon, as it indicates some level of activity and engagement.

that's

7:36 p.m.

that literally was my point???

I didn’t read it like that.

Deleted User

We all have expectations for this game's progression. I'm pleased that there's a difference of opinion regarding the wagon, as it indicates some level of activity and engagement.

so the wagon did give something

7:37 p.m.

right?

7:37 p.m.

that's what i am defending

7:37 p.m.

and the exact reason why i dont have to be voting to say thata

7:37 p.m.

that*

I noticed you voted Dec before but got off.

7:38 p.m.

Was there a reason?

uh i voted for the exact same reason this wagon ormed

7:38 p.m.

formed*

Keaton do you think nge is good or evil rn

at first

7:38 p.m.

then voted kiri idek why

7:38 p.m.

bc i have only been like ups and downs with kiri

7:39 p.m.

so i cant say what happened there exactl

7:39 p.m.

y

Danger!? Luka!

Keaton do you think nge is good or evil rn

I'm currently null. It's been like that since the beginning of the game.

so i voted kiri

ic

and then the dec wagon formed

7:39 p.m.

and since the reason behind it

7:39 p.m.

also applies to kiri

7:39 p.m.

kirin*

7:39 p.m.

i voted kirin

7:40 p.m.

which is another funny thingy

The purpose of voting Kirin was because Dec’s wagon had the same reason?

bc callahan pointed out that exact same thing and like calling me out for it

Deleted User

The purpose of voting Kirin was because Dec’s wagon had the same reason?

kinda?

7:40 p.m.

if the same reason to vote A

7:40 p.m.

applies for B

7:41 p.m.

then people can't just follow A just like that

Was there something you were trying to achieve there with voting Kirin?

yes?

Which is?

you can get variety of responses

7:41 p.m.

you can get people wanting to be stubborn and stay on dec

7:41 p.m.

people switching to kirin

7:41 p.m.

etc

7:41 p.m.

it's putting the option on the table

7:42 p.m.

where there's clearly not a strong difference

7:42 p.m.

between either

7:42 p.m.

so if people vote either

7:42 p.m.

you can get info from that?

7:42 p.m.

interactions, who defends who, who has fair supporting reasoning for voting one over the other

7:43 p.m.

bc just saying the afk thingy cant really apply anymore

7:43 p.m.

(for example kiri's reason is that kirin is apparently easier to read moving forward)

7:44 p.m.

we could ask luka as well why dec over kirin

7:44 p.m.

and well

7:44 p.m.

something i liked about the dec wagon is that it cooooouuuuuld put pressure into him to at least say smth

7:44 p.m.

(for that to happen the wagon would have to stay until he gets back tho)

7:45 p.m.

so why not trying to get the same effect for kirin?

Okay. Sure.

7:46 p.m.

Let's use this thought progress.

huh? wait why

Do you not agree with what you just said? Let's put two wagons on two people who have the same reasons for being voted. Let's see what everybody says.

7:48 p.m.

We have time, don't we?

i do

7:48 p.m.

but that was a quick and easy change

7:49 p.m.

idk if you are actually agreeing with what i said

7:49 p.m.

or idk what else

Is there a reason I shouldn't agree with you?

not that i know of but you didnt seem to like anything said before and now you just say "sure let's follow that"

Why shouldn't I give you a chance?

bc i dont want a "chance" for the sake of it?

7:51 p.m.

if you dont agree in smth i'd rather have you share your viewpoint in a discussion engaging way

I'm currently waiting to see if I win an award, but I'll love to talk more in a bit.

the only way i can progress my own reads n stuff throughout the game besides reading new content is talking to people that disagree with me on smth so we can get to a synthesis

Deleted User

I'm currently waiting to see if I win an award, but I'll love to talk more in a bit.

wut

7:52 p.m.

uhm

7:52 p.m.

gl

Ngekop

wut

Keaton got nommed for the most calculated player award, remember

7:54 p.m.

like I told u about it I think

where?

EIMM

oh okkk

7:55 p.m.

idk why i thought he meant like

7:55 p.m.

irl

nah

well alright

Ngekop

(for example kiri's reason is that kirin is apparently easier to read moving forward)

This reason

7:57 p.m.

is odd bc like why don’t we apply this to how

7:57 p.m.

Is Dec really that hard to read

bc how isnt particularly easy to read

7:57 p.m.

also let's be fair

7:57 p.m.

how does get lynched d1 a lot when people dont know where else to go

7:58 p.m.

and tbh

7:58 p.m.

it's hard that people actually regret doing so

I want kaden dead

i love the kid but that's true^

Just saying

why kaden

7:58 p.m.

bc he's just memeing?

His vote on Dec was so odd bc it was picking up pace but he was like hehe about me

7:58 p.m.

he was like callahan

7:58 p.m.

Mobile ruins my emojis

7:58 p.m.

; )

7:59 p.m.

Shouldn’t u just vote me if u suspect me

7:59 p.m.

Instead of just hoping on some wagon

7:59 p.m.

Correct me if I’m wrong tho

wait where did he say he sused you

I understand the doctor comment or whatever

KadanRay

Idk about Callahan ;)

This

8:00 p.m.

But this could be bc I could be pocketing him as scum

8:00 p.m.

Ugh wait

eh

He could be like I’m scum and he’s like oh she complimenting means I’m pocketing him

8:00 p.m.

Wait nvm

i doubt it was bc of that

8:01 p.m.

uh

8:01 p.m.

ok?

8:01 p.m.

i think it was just bc i sai

8:01 p.m.

said*

did I read it wrong

smth about luka and callahan

8:01 p.m.

and their townslips

Do u still think luka could be traitor

and he just as always

8:01 p.m.

emphasizing

8:01 p.m.

he tr's luka

8:01 p.m.

since that's all he has said

8:01 p.m.

the whole game

8:01 p.m.

p much

Odd

mhm

The thing is luka is a overall town read again

as i said kadan has stuff i like

8:02 p.m.

and stuff i dont

charlie

Do u still think luka could be traitor

i mean

So u can just be like they r scum partner but maybe him pocketing luka

8:02 p.m.

Cant

it's hard to distinguish

8:02 p.m.

town from traitor behavior d1

8:03 p.m.

bc traitor is just as uninformed

8:03 p.m.

i do still think he is traitor or town ye

Do u have any strong town reads other then Keaton

8:05 p.m.

I’m really waiting on Sam rn and hoping he is town

8:05 p.m.

bc it’s Sam

i hope he's maf

8:08 p.m.

if he's town this will just be easy and boring

well dont we want a easy win

8:14 p.m.

last game was

8:14 p.m.

something

what's last game

8:20 p.m.

when how hammered?

8:20 p.m.

i loved that game tbh

charlie

well dont we want a easy win

uh

8:21 p.m.

i mean i can take it

8:21 p.m.

bc i want a win

8:21 p.m.

but it gives out more satisfaction when it's harder

8:23 p.m.

good news guys

8:23 p.m.

i just ate smth

8:23 p.m.

after like

8:23 p.m.

8 hours

8:23 p.m.

so i'm probs less irritable now

8:23 p.m.

Def make sure u eat

8:25 p.m.

And sleep

8:25 p.m.

And drink water!!!

hmmm im missing some water but sure

back from dinner

Keaton did not win most calculated player award rip

It makes sense since I only played one game.

Ngekop

the only way i can progress my own reads n stuff throughout the game besides reading new content is talking to people that disagree with me on smth so we can get to a synthesis

I just want to see how much information we can get since you said we can get information.

8:55 p.m.

The only information I got so far from the wagon of Dec is, I disagree, and Callahan is town.

8:56 p.m.

Not sure what information you got so far.

Deleted User

It makes sense since I only played one game.

ROBBED

Deleted User

The only information I got so far from the wagon of Dec is, I disagree, and Callahan is town.

nerd

9:01 p.m.

ofc you go out of your way to clear calla

Well, I'm happy she is town. She can copy my playstyle when I'm dead. So, Keaton 2.0 will be in the game when I'm gone.

making me sound like I'm going to be a villain or some shit

Yep.

Deleted User

The only information I got so far from the wagon of Dec is, I disagree, and Callahan is town.

dont see how you get callahan town from that but alright

Ngekop

dont see how you get callahan town from that but alright

Okay.

9:19 p.m.

Still waiting on this information you got.

i havent gotten any information

9:31 p.m.

?

9:31 p.m.

other than idt callahan and kadan are scum together

9:31 p.m.

nvm

9:31 p.m.

not even that

Okay.

9:41 p.m.

I got my scum reads and town reads so far, I'm waiting on everybody to speak first.

hi im back

9:52 p.m.

and why tf do i have 3 votes

9:52 p.m.

what case happened on my not-spoken self

Ngekop

(for example kiri's reason is that kirin is apparently easier to read moving forward)

im hard to read?

9:55 p.m.

but other then that it seems to just be that i was afk

Ye

9:56 p.m.

It was a horrible reason

holy hell yall are cooking with like, kerosine or something lmao

9:57 p.m.

there are so many large paragraph sized plsts

9:57 p.m.

posts*

Scum read for saying hello

For saying hello and leaving

charlie

Scum read for saying hello

i mean

Gamecube

For saying hello and leaving

Some ppl r busy

thats like a ¼ chance

I'd mention that then

Also he said it at the beginning when nothing was happening

Gamecube

For saying hello and leaving

wait i said hello already?

Not up to others to guess

The Royal Assassin, Dec

wait i said hello already?

Apparently

9:59 p.m.

I don't remember seeing it myself

oh

9:59 p.m.

i isod #elf

9:59 p.m.

i said it in school lmao

The Royal Assassin, Dec

hello

Her

9:59 p.m.

Here

bc i happened to be here at daystart ish

9:59 p.m.

but then phone had to go away bc class change

9:59 p.m.

was over

9:59 p.m.

i just now remember that

10:00 p.m.

(and somewhat geussing bc i see the timestamp

Gamecube

Not up to others to guess

i mean, it should be common knowledge by now (i hope) that i have the weirdest schedule for being on, so its hard for me to be on for a even 30 minute session straight

I'm not voting you myself

I called it out and said it was a bad wagon

10:03 p.m.

bc it is

Because I know you aren't active on day 1

10:03 p.m.

And I believe I have figured you out so I want you alive YEP

10:03 p.m.

Not this game but in general I think

I was like damn

10:03 p.m.

That was quick

I'm just that good at mafia

10:05 p.m.

I'll have to catch up on the previous conversation later. Seems like I missed quite a bit

back

10:13 p.m.

((oh look just accidentally proved my own point)l

10:13 p.m.

anyways family is calling

10:13 p.m.

good bye yet again

Bye my vote on you isn’t changing

The Royal Assassin, Dec

hi im back

hi back

Gamecube

For saying hello and leaving

eh

11:00 p.m.

i mean dec for sure was here at some points

11:00 p.m.

so that indeed is smth

11:00 p.m.

but still saying hello and leaving is

11:00 p.m.

NAI

11:00 p.m.

?

The Royal Assassin, Dec

wait i said hello already?

charlie

bc it is

zzz

11:01 p.m.

it isnt a great wagon

Kirigiri said something about Dec coming and not putting the time or something

but it means nothing bad omg

I'll find the post later when I'm free

Danger!? Luka!

Bye my vote on you isn’t changing

why not

Gamecube

Kirigiri said something about Dec coming and not putting the time or something

what

Oh neat one of my neighbors just had the police called on me

11:02 p.m.

Em*

Ngekop

why not

They said nothing productive

uh

11:04 p.m.

interesting how you work ngl

Danger!? Luka!

Oh neat one of my neighbors just had the police called on me

???

@Toof (Sam) you coming anytime soon

11:04 p.m.

?

charlie

???

Em* me was a typo

Ngekop

what

Just give me 10 minutes I'll be back

I am innocent GabrielHalo

just like in this game

I mean like ??? For ur neighbor calling the police on u

Oh I know I was just explaining The police wasn’t called on me but my neighbor

11:05 p.m.

Dunno why don’t really care

Ohhhh

eh i'm not really feeling comfortable this game

11:06 p.m.

i feel like keaton and callahan (if town) won't be easy to work with at least not rn

11:07 p.m.

and there's a reaaaally fair chance a good player is scum

11:07 p.m.

so it doesnt get better

11:07 p.m.

zzz

Keaton is never easy to work with I’m easy to work with

Ngekop

@Toof (Sam) you coming anytime soon

erm

YES

11:11 p.m.

wow

yeah just

i cant believe

listen

11:11 p.m.

today was wild

i got excited to see sam

I could give you the rundown in dm's but

this is new

11:11 p.m.

;-

11:11 p.m.

;

i'm a bit of a mess and have practical negative motivation to like

11:11 p.m.

actually find any mafia

oh shit

F

11:11 p.m.

:(

especially after 4 scum flips back to back to back to back prior to this

11:11 p.m.

BUT!

11:12 p.m.

um

11:12 p.m.

mmm

Toof (Sam)

especially after 4 scum flips back to back to back to back prior to this

4?

11:12 p.m.

what

Sam take ur time

Ngekop

4?

yeah i talked about it with cait

There is 48 hours

11:12 p.m.

Focus on u

what

11:12 p.m.

i remember you maf in the 2 i hosted

11:12 p.m.

but that's uh

11:12 p.m.

it

11:12 p.m.

?

11:12 p.m.

anyways hope you feel better whatever it is

Turbo, Ma54, Ne41, and a game i cannot disclose but it isn't in this server

if you want to talk about it in dm's anytime i'm here p much 24/7

Toof (Sam)

Turbo, Ma54, Ne41, and a game i cannot disclose but it isn't in this server

oh turbo

11:13 p.m.

true

11:13 p.m.

i forgot that one

either way

11:13 p.m.

I have

11:13 p.m.

from 1pm to 7pm tomorrow to work on this and

11:13 p.m.

lord knows i wont go to bed if im on someone's trail

11:13 p.m.

so

11:13 p.m.

if i get a burst of motivation i'll see you then

11:13 p.m.

if not, cya tmrw

11:13 p.m.

if you want me to

:/

read anything real quick

fair

hmu

nah

u sure?

11:13 p.m.

ur pretty bad

lmao

love u too

11:14 p.m.

peace

uh

11:14 p.m.

wizard guy is still afk

11:14 p.m.

who the fuck is wizard guy

Toof (Sam)

today was wild

Hope everything’s alright

new

11:14 p.m.

sam

oh ok

wanna bus kirin?

sure

he has one line

Ngekop

i feel like keaton and callahan (if town) won't be easy to work with at least not rn

I’m easy to work with at least

u know its my fav hobby

so far

11:15 p.m.

and the line is

"talking talking"

Let's hope they flip busboy

11:15 p.m.

oh

11:15 p.m.

wow

or smth like that

that's incredible

Toof (Sam)

Let's hope they flip busboy

wait guys can we ML callahan soon...

11:15 p.m.

i'm bored...

I’ll join the wagon sure

11:15 p.m.

It has to happen

Toof (Sam)

wait guys can we ML callahan soon...

3 games in a row L

Toof (Sam)

wait guys can we ML callahan soon...

sadly no

I need to be ml

bc she's finally scum

11:15 p.m.

:/

11:15 p.m.

so it wont be a ml

oh

11:15 p.m.

f

11:16 p.m.

also

Ngekop

bc she's finally scum

but we wont lynch callahan

keaton being IC is the funniest shit to me

11:16 p.m.

on cod

bc keaton tr's her

Toof (Sam)

keaton being IC is the funniest shit to me

ik

11:16 p.m.

he'll just die n1 or n2

11:16 p.m.

and if he doesnt die n1

11:16 p.m.

it's bc bg dies n1

11:16 p.m.

and he dies n2

Luka I thought u weren’t shifting from Dec

Kirin also has no activity

11:16 p.m.

I’m fine with that wagon

11:16 p.m.

I want both dead

lol

11:17 p.m.

we cant just spend all game voting out afk's

11:17 p.m.

even those slots can towntell if town eventually

11:17 p.m.

however i dont mind pressuring them and if they still dont respond and dont give any indication of contributing anytime soon

11:18 p.m.

voting them out

Ngekop

we cant just spend all game voting out afk's

It we have a solid sr I’ll vote that over a afk

11:18 p.m.

If not afks die

Ngekop

however i dont mind pressuring them and if they still dont respond and dont give any indication of contributing anytime soon

prods

11:18 p.m.

do exist

yes

11:18 p.m.

so?

11:18 p.m.

it takes 3 prods for them to be replaced

11:18 p.m.

so it can take until d3

Who was hosting this game

11:18 p.m.

Or who is

just shrimply out prod them

11:18 p.m.

giless

11:18 p.m.

giles

and d3 can just

Oh Giles

be mylo

Does Giles do double prods

wait

11:18 p.m.

wtf

11:19 p.m.

day THREE is mylo?

If so then wizard goes d2

Toof (Sam)

day THREE is mylo?

if we ml d1 and d2

11:19 p.m.

ye

nah we losin this shit on cod 0 cap

11:19 p.m.

good bye

LOL

11:19 p.m.

KLSDGOIWOGAW

can’t we just sub ppl out

not until they get forced replaced

y'all cant even lynch a scum in 5 days we fucked if it's 3

that happens after 3 prods

Toof (Sam)

y'all cant even lynch a scum in 5 days we fucked if it's 3

loooooooool

Alright I have returned

hi gc

I'll catch up on the earlier conversation

this will be draining

11:27 p.m.

bump maybe?

Are you suggesting a vote?

Toof (Sam)

keaton being IC is the funniest shit to me

It’s horrible.

11:30 p.m.

I'm stressing about my reads.

Danger!? Luka!

Does Giles do double prods

Prods?

11:30 p.m.

I just do them when I feel like it

.

So sometimes I forget

….

Oops

11:31 p.m.

They should happen every 24 hours

11:31 p.m.

But again sometimes I forget

Gamecube

Are you suggesting a vote?

thinking who can be maf of the ones talking

And they just don’t

11:31 p.m.

Oh well not like it will kill you to not get prodded

Ngekop

thinking who can be maf of the ones talking

What's Bump normally like? I hope it isn't like in 54

uh

11:32 p.m.

not exactly but doesnt go that different

11:32 p.m.

just less inactive

fantastic

Deleted User

I'm stressing about my reads.

ey

11:32 p.m.

that's not like you

11:32 p.m.

clear your head

11:33 p.m.

you don't gotta be right d1

11:33 p.m.

aint nobody expecting that from you

11:33 p.m.

but you gotta give some level thoughts

idt it's about that

nobody's gonna hard sheep you but, they'll at least listen and

11:33 p.m.

if you have good arguments

it's just annoying to know you only have a day

i'll make damn sure they're shown

Ngekop

it's just annoying to know you only have a day

yea true

Don’t be so pessimistic

11:34 p.m.

Keaton could have two days

I want to have good detailed reads. They don't have to be right, but I want people to reference them if needed.

11:34 p.m.

Since I don't think people are going to reread.

well

Deleted User

Since I don't think people are going to reread.

nah

you have um

11:34 p.m.

me

11:34 p.m.

and ngekop

trust me

and um

11:34 p.m.

er

11:34 p.m.

uh

there are at least

11:34 p.m.

4 people

Gm

who will reread

well you have

11:35 p.m.

me

11:35 p.m.

and ngekop

sam also kiri

OH

11:35 p.m.

TRUE

11:35 p.m.

see that's a whole

11:35 p.m.

4 days worth of knowledge!

I’ll reread!

good thing we're losing on d3

11:35 p.m.

holy shit

11:35 p.m.

5 days

lmaoooooo

we're practically rolling in it

why do i keep laughing

cuz im funny and u love me

11:35 p.m.

duh

Ive never made it to endgame as good

11:35 p.m.

It’s sad

Danger!? Luka!

Ive never made it to endgame as good

just be... worse?

11:35 p.m.

idk

Danger!? Luka!

Ive never made it to endgame as good

stop making yourself obv doc

true

:p

silly goose

11:35 p.m.

:p

Ngekop

stop making yourself obv doc

I still don’t know how I was obvious pr that game sob

@Danger!? Luka! btw your explanation is literally just that

Danger!? Luka!

I still don’t know how I was obvious pr that game sob

i dont either

My gut told me you were playing a different game

11:36 p.m.

and

11:36 p.m.

my gut is

but apparently you were

literally never wrong

11:36 p.m.

so

11:36 p.m.

W

Toof (Sam)

my gut is

your hat*

erm

11:37 p.m.

mc scuse me

11:37 p.m.

I don't need a hat to be correct

11:37 p.m.

oh btw

Gm ig

my speech is completely nai right now for anyone daring to townread me as i am currently parroting the speed i played about 8 hours ago and in complete org mode

11:37 p.m.

sooooooooo

11:38 p.m.

this is ngekop

11:38 p.m.

bro's gonna be like "well according to my caluclations sam's words are exactly 3.14 decibels off of his town game and therefore I should vote him"

PIE!!!

11:38 p.m.

I regoxnfise that!!!

KadanRay

Gm ig

Good morning.

Toof (Sam)

bro's gonna be like "well according to my caluclations sam's words are exactly 3.14 decibels off of his town game and therefore I should vote him"

dude i dont do that even after 2 days

Ngekop

dude i dont do that even after 2 days

oh true

11:39 p.m.

nvm guys

11:39 p.m.

i was talking about kiri

11:39 p.m.

(OHHH SHIT)

11:39 p.m.

^ this u rn

11:39 p.m.

whoever's reading htis

sam whenever you can read kiri/bump/callahan at least i'd say

11:39 p.m.

yeah you

and read the "townslips"

11:39 p.m.

(luka, callahan, kadan)

Callahan is town.

(imo in that order of how genuine they feel)

Deleted User

Callahan is town.

your voice has power in this regard

Glad I'm catching up, the conversation about the Dec wagon is quite funny

Ngekop

and read the "townslips"

what were the townslips

so it'll def be really tough to lynch callahan anyways

11:40 p.m.

@Deleted User would be nice if you elaborate on that somehow as you did everything last game in your player chat

Toof (Sam)

what were the townslips

so

11:41 p.m.

luka didnt know mafia could talk pregame

Ngekop

@Deleted User would be nice if you elaborate on that somehow as you did everything last game in your player chat

Let me fetch what I wrote in my channel.

can they

callahan didnt seem to know how the pregame phase worked

Toof (Sam)

can they

dont

have they never not been able to lol?????????????

Toof (Sam)

have they never not been able to lol?????????????

oh

11:41 p.m.

ok

11:41 p.m.

yeah ikr

I thought they needed to vote for day chat to talk d1

especially when they had to

The game would have been so much funner

Danger!? Luka!

I thought they needed to vote for day chat to talk d1

wut?

11:41 p.m.

they do

11:41 p.m.

need

11:42 p.m.

to vote for day chat to talk d1

No to talk at all before n1

11:42 p.m.

Sorry

yeah no

11:42 p.m.

pregame phase they gotta pick lmao

Ngekop

pregame phase they gotta pick lmao

Only voting no discussion

btw

Would have been more fun

Ngekop

@Deleted User would be nice if you elaborate on that somehow as you did everything last game in your player chat

Regarding Callahan, my understanding comes from pmeta. Despite my initial paranoia about her ability to use town-like lines, her engagement in a debate over an upcoming wagon at this early stage of the game suggests she's aligned with the town. It's improbable for the mafia to openly contest a wagon this early, especially when its direction can shift quickly. If Dec were mafia and Callahan were also mafia, she wouldn't draw so much early attention to herself. Callahan is recognized for bussing and has the tendency to kill weaker team members for town credit.

Ngekop

callahan didnt seem to know how the pregame phase worked

she was like "why wouldnt they recruit traitor or pick daytalk?"

If they're bad they picked like 4 things and if they're good they picked nothing

and when i said

I think that's pretty blatant but

she was like ohhhh

11:43 p.m.

about town gaining pr's from that

just for later in like Day 19 when someone goes "hrm yes I think Ngekop really wanted that Mafia Bulletproof"

11:43 p.m.

no, no he did not

there was smth else iirc

Toof (Sam)

If they're bad they picked like 4 things and if they're good they picked nothing

If I was maf I would have picked 3 since since pr madness is more fun tbh

but i forgot what exactly

11:43 p.m.

and kadan seemed to think there was a doc

11:43 p.m.

that's the weakest imo

scumslip cringe

I would have picked nothing as mafia.

Deleted User

I would have picked nothing as mafia.

ily

He saw strongman

same

Deleted User

I would have picked nothing as mafia.

cuz that's objectively correct yes

Toof (Sam)

cuz that's objectively correct yes

idk

Picking nothing is objectively smarter but Daytalk + Recruit +

11:44 p.m.

Rolecop

recruiting traitor is useful imo

More fun

daytalk is just

11:44 p.m.

really dumb to pick

Ngekop

idk

ok nvm he did want the Mafia Bulletproof guys

Ngekop

same

You said earlier you would do traitor

daytalk is never worth an additional pr

Danger!? Luka!

You said earlier you would do traitor

no

also

11:44 p.m.

just imo

11:44 p.m.

recruiting traitor is like

i said i could easily be told to by partner and agree

Actually just, a bad thing?

11:44 p.m.

After all, if you recruit traitor, it's much much easier to fake scumhunting

i also said it could be better to recruit

don't recruit*

11:45 p.m.

i'm L

Toof (Sam)

After all, if you recruit traitor, it's much much easier to fake scumhunting

yeah but you make traitor's life a nightmare

Ngekop

yeah but you make traitor's life a nightmare

sounds like... an L

+ like

11:45 p.m.

the fact town knows they could not recruit traitor

Tbh o think scum should be able to pick town prs and who’s what pr

can just make that useless

That way they really stack the deck

eh

11:46 p.m.

imo like not recruiting traitor makes it much easier to feign things

11:46 p.m.

and that's

i do think i'd be ok being traitor and not recruited

not really something town can pick up on

but imo

without progression analysis

this is like

11:46 p.m.

lolnoobtraitormafialose

11:46 p.m.

remember that setup?

Toof (Sam)

imo like not recruiting traitor makes it much easier to feign things

but harder to coordinate smth

11:46 p.m.

you can get the traitor lynched

11:46 p.m.

and that affects mafia hard and you get 0 town cred for that

Ngekop

lolnoobtraitormafialose

holy shit

11:47 p.m.

i should run that

i already

11:47 p.m.

asked

oh

11:47 p.m.

die

but i queued

11:47 p.m.

another game

11:47 p.m.

so dw

11:47 p.m.

but you are doing the same thing tho

11:47 p.m.

with the circle of trust thingy

11:47 p.m.

anyways irrelevant

Deleted User

Regarding Callahan, my understanding comes from pmeta. Despite my initial paranoia about her ability to use town-like lines, her engagement in a debate over an upcoming wagon at this early stage of the game suggests she's aligned with the town. It's improbable for the mafia to openly contest a wagon this early, especially when its direction can shift quickly. If Dec were mafia and Callahan were also mafia, she wouldn't draw so much early attention to herself. Callahan is recognized for bussing and has the tendency to kill weaker team members for town credit.

i never read this

I could tell.

lol

11:48 p.m.

Lgekop

Deleted User

Regarding Callahan, my understanding comes from pmeta. Despite my initial paranoia about her ability to use town-like lines, her engagement in a debate over an upcoming wagon at this early stage of the game suggests she's aligned with the town. It's improbable for the mafia to openly contest a wagon this early, especially when its direction can shift quickly. If Dec were mafia and Callahan were also mafia, she wouldn't draw so much early attention to herself. Callahan is recognized for bussing and has the tendency to kill weaker team members for town credit.

i actually agree with a lot of what you said here

ftr I'm not reading jack shit and feel not the slightest bit bad about it

but what if

11:48 p.m.

what if

god this is so freeing

calla+kadan

11:48 p.m.

Any other reads or we been rubbing same people

I don't have to like

11:48 p.m.

carry anyone

11:48 p.m.

well

11:48 p.m.

i will but

11:48 p.m.

i'll let ngekop do that rn

loooool

@Ngekop yoo hoo my little minion have you found the mafia for me

call me minion again and i tunnel you for the rest of the game

i'll give u a cookie if u have

11:49 p.m.

ok minion

11:49 p.m.

L

Nge is scarlet woman trust

who dat

A minion

Bro is wanda?????

11:49 p.m.

Wanda maximoff??

that's scarlet witch dummy

Yeah basically the same thing

11:50 p.m.

Witch, woman, what's the difference

jklgrjiogha0iighahgpqw

@Ngekop can i uncall you minion

11:50 p.m.

i need to go walk my fish

lol

11:51 p.m.

sure

done catching up

KadanRay

Nge is scarlet woman trust

No they’re vizier silly

Alright vizier it is then

OH WAIT

11:52 p.m.

BOTC

11:52 p.m.

JSDLILGPWOIGPWAG

11:53 p.m.

TRUEEEEEEE

11:53 p.m.

i was the guy you cant lynch

11:53 p.m.

who was that?

11:53 p.m.

sargent?

Saint?

Ngekop

calla+kadan

It's possible to interpret the situation as SvT, considering Callahan as the potential scum. In the earlier stages of the game, she complimented him, which could be seen as an attempt to gain his trust. However, she abruptly changed course and advocated for his death, a move that scum wouldn't make so hastily. Therefore, a TVT dynamic is more likely, as I currently hold town reads for both of them.

saint

11:53 p.m.

that

11:53 p.m.

ty

Think keeping the vote on Kirin would be useful to test Callahan

Yw

11:53 p.m.

SvT and TvT?

Deleted User

It's possible to interpret the situation as SvT, considering Callahan as the potential scum. In the earlier stages of the game, she complimented him, which could be seen as an attempt to gain his trust. However, she abruptly changed course and advocated for his death, a move that scum wouldn't make so hastily. Therefore, a TVT dynamic is more likely, as I currently hold town reads for both of them.

well

11:54 p.m.

sigh you're probs right

11:54 p.m.

ok but

11:55 p.m.

why cant dec just be town with callahan mafia...you said it yourself the direction of it can change easily so why not trying to get town cred by going ahead of the curve

who's callahan

@charlie

Ngekop

why cant dec just be town with callahan mafia...you said it yourself the direction of it can change easily so why not trying to get town cred by going ahead of the curve

Do you expect her to react the way she did

Gamecube

Do you expect her to react the way she did

idk

11:56 p.m.

if she's town i want to see it that's all

to a wagon a few hors into the game

honestly fk it

11:56 p.m.

sure

Ok whatevs

no like fr sure

11:56 p.m.

lol

11:56 p.m.

like even if i dont think that's enough

11:57 p.m.

i think i can see her as town while seeing her as scum is kinda hard

11:57 p.m.

that + keaton

11:57 p.m.

sure

btw ngekop's the traitor but there's no use lynching him cuz he's probably pissed and trying to find the actual scum team lmfaooooooo

Toof (Sam)

btw ngekop's the traitor but there's no use lynching him cuz he's probably pissed and trying to find the actual scum team lmfaooooooo

if i was traitor i wouldnt be upset

no u didnt get recruited

11:57 p.m.

so you're sad

no like

11:57 p.m.

if i was unrecruited traitor

11:57 p.m.

i wouldnt be upset

11:57 p.m.

lmao

Ngekop

why cant dec just be town with callahan mafia...you said it yourself the direction of it can change easily so why not trying to get town cred by going ahead of the curve

Wouldn't scum generally be more inclined to accept a town vote without exposing the weak justification behind it? Instead of intervening and pointing out the faulty reason immediately, Callahan could have allowed the lynch to occur and then criticized the town members for their bad reason at a later point.

i would be more upset if i was recruited and saw my team also picked daytalk

Would be fun

oh

11:58 p.m.

LMFAO

Deleted User

Wouldn't scum generally be more inclined to accept a town vote without exposing the weak justification behind it? Instead of intervening and pointing out the faulty reason immediately, Callahan could have allowed the lynch to occur and then criticized the town members for their bad reason at a later point.

again you said it yourself

11:58 p.m.

the wagon can change anytime and in fact is likely to

question

11:58 p.m.

i'm about to dumbtell

11:58 p.m.

but

especially since you said it was dogwater before

can the mafia like, update their settings in the middle of the game

and you're the clear + strong presence

no

11:58 p.m.

that would be dumb

Deleted User

Wouldn't scum generally be more inclined to accept a town vote without exposing the weak justification behind it? Instead of intervening and pointing out the faulty reason immediately, Callahan could have allowed the lynch to occur and then criticized the town members for their bad reason at a later point.

Or just wait for the votes to change

can they Day 1 be like "hm this is hard i want to recruit the traitor"

you wish

so you just look better for making smth good for town happen when that was most likely happening either way

Don't see mafia defending ateamate there especially Dec who didn't speak

Toof (Sam)

can the mafia like, update their settings in the middle of the game

no

11:59 p.m.

OKay so

Locked good:
- Sam

locked scum:
- Keaton

11:59 p.m.

Glad we have this sorted out

11:59 p.m.

Ill do an actual read list later Nod

new townslip

zzz

Ngekop

no

i think

12:00 a.m.

there would be ways to make it fair with the setup tho

12:00 a.m.

Like for instance, you could add a new IC

12:00 a.m.

oh well

Ngekop

the wagon can change anytime and in fact is likely to

You're correct, but I find it unlikely that Callahan would have become so forceful and drawn considerable attention to herself this early in the game without a valid reason, which seems to be preventing town from making bad lynch.

Gamecube

Or just wait for the votes to change

Yes. This as well.

Deleted User

Yes. This as well.

once again

12:01 a.m.

it has the same effect (votes change)

12:01 a.m.

and you just look better when you make it happen

12:01 a.m.

but ok

Deleted User

You're correct, but I find it unlikely that Callahan would have become so forceful and drawn considerable attention to herself this early in the game without a valid reason, which seems to be preventing town from making bad lynch.

to this uh

12:02 a.m.

well

12:02 a.m.

ok new question

12:02 a.m.

nvm

12:02 a.m.

tbh i can't really argue her being scum

12:02 a.m.

especially bc idt i sr her even

Ngekop

and you just look better when you make it happen

There's the risk though of Dec eventually flipping maf

but i think we just wont agree 100% as in i cant be sold on calla town just bc of that

Guess my question got dismissed zz

what was your question again

Gamecube

There's the risk though of Dec eventually flipping maf

??

12:03 a.m.

what

KadanRay

SvT and TvT?

Scum vs town. And Town vs town.

I see thank

For Calla looking good for diverting the vote

we're discussing the scenario of calla maf and dec town

Gamecube

For Calla looking good for diverting the vote

?

Okay nevermind then

ohhhh yeah if they are mvm they indeed just wait

12:04 a.m.

ye

12:04 a.m.

ok ic

12:04 a.m.

well but now answer

12:04 a.m.

is there a strong reason to say she wouldnt do that as scum with dec town?

12:04 a.m.

i mean once again keaton already called the wagon dogwater before she said smth about it

12:04 a.m.

so it was obv where it was going

If Dec's town I'd say it's a different situation

Gamecube

If Dec's town I'd say it's a different situation

well yeah if dec's maf then callahan imo is town

Just lynch Dec then for info

12:05 a.m.

...

Diverting a vote this early poses no real risk for her potential mafia teamates

yeah imma stick to think kadan is probs town

guys

12:05 a.m.

i found a member of the mafia

12:05 a.m.

i reread

12:05 a.m.

and did it

but i dont like him playing

12:05 a.m.

:(

Thank you.

Toof (Sam)

and did it

who

erm

And just looks good for calling out a "poor lynch"

when did i say i was gonna

12:06 a.m.

say who?????????????

12:06 a.m.

L lmao

name someone

ok

12:06 a.m.

ngekop

when did i say you said you werre gonna say who

Do not tell you found someone then

12:06 a.m.

Literally a tease

were*

I think that was joke answer btw

uh

Just fishing for nge reaction

if sam gets me lynched

12:07 a.m.

lynch him next without question

Ngekop

when did i say you said you werre gonna say who

true

Ngekop

if sam gets me lynched

i said we're not lynching you GOD you're no ufn

that's all i'd have to say about a potential sr of sam on me

Toof (Sam)

i said we're not lynching you GOD you're no ufn

i never said you didnt say that

12:07 a.m.

zzz

oh my god

12:08 a.m.

i'm voting u out nvm

lel

12:08 a.m.

anyways

ok

12:08 a.m.

ngekop

12:08 a.m.

whats ur read on me

12:08 a.m.

you have like

12:08 a.m.

34 and a half seconds

12:08 a.m.

starting my stopwatch now

sure

12:09 a.m.

bro idk

my stopwatch broke so you have infinite time but

12:09 a.m.

oh well

gut says town but nothing you have done is outside of your scumrange (especially bc you have barely given anything that is telling at all)

Toof (Sam)

my stopwatch broke so you have infinite time but

ok W

holy shitttttttttttttttttttttttttttt im town

12:10 a.m.

lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

zzz

scumtell

12:10 a.m.

he's mafia

12:10 a.m.

gettim boys

12:11 a.m.

bro

12:11 a.m.

it's gonna be like

12:11 a.m.

Day 5

12:11 a.m.

we're in lylo

12:11 a.m.

someone's gonna look at my day 1 and g

12:11 a.m.

"bro i gotta lynch this guy he sucks"

12:11 a.m.

and we finna lose

12:11 a.m.

and ima wheeze

12:11 a.m.

i got that Lunexia mod vision

12:11 a.m.

someone ban me right now on cod

starting to think traitor was unrecruited

12:12 a.m.

which kinda makes this more messed up

12:12 a.m.

not traitor hunt but we p much have a maf team of 2

how come

instead of 3

Gamecube

how come

uh

Hm.

most people seem to genuinely not being into recruiting traitor

12:13 a.m.

and it's hard to see any 3 people coordinated in any way

Gamecube

how come

i put the idea into his head and he's just now realizing it dw

Toof (Sam)

i put the idea into his head and he's just now realizing it dw

nah

Mafia could just say whatever they want though

sureee

Not going to show up as mafia and say I would 100% recruit traitor when that's what I did

you're not the only one who has said that

Gamecube

Not going to show up as mafia and say I would 100% recruit traitor when that's what I did

still

12:14 a.m.

i said it feels genuine

12:14 a.m.

and it does

If anything a lack of pairs would be indicative of a non recruited traitor, but that's too early to early to decide

Ngekop

you're not the only one who has said that

Nah but u listen to me cuz i’m a genus

12:15 a.m.

Fr

12:16 a.m.

I’m intrigued to hear what keaton has to say

12:16 a.m.

Bro hm’d all over

Gamecube

If anything a lack of pairs would be indicative of a non recruited traitor, but that's too early to early to decide

it's early to decie

12:17 a.m.

decide

12:17 a.m.

yes

12:17 a.m.

but i'm starting to get that feeling

Toof (Sam)

I’m intrigued to hear what keaton has to say

I can't think.

Oh

12:17 a.m.

Gg

let's hope it is the case, gives us more leeway with misslynches

how

12:19 a.m.

it doesnt

12:19 a.m.

lol

I was assuming traitor wouldn't count as maf for tying or majority

@Giles Corey can you clear that thing up pls? (idk either)

12:22 a.m.

regardless tho

12:22 a.m.

they p much win if they achieve majority with traitor

12:22 a.m.

assume it's day and 6 left, 3 town, 2 maf, 1 traitor

12:22 a.m.

a maf gets lynched

12:22 a.m.

then town killed

12:23 a.m.

then maf lynched

12:23 a.m.

then traitor takes over and kills town

12:23 a.m.

1-1

12:23 a.m.

gg either way

12:23 a.m.

like

12:23 a.m.

unless there's a vig or smth but for vig to be in play + that scenario to happen...idk

Suppose mafia could also reveal themselves if needed and get a lynch

Ngekop

@Giles Corey can you clear that thing up pls? (idk either)

Huh

12:26 a.m.

So you’re asking in the case that it’s a 2v2v1 (with the 1 being a traitor), would the game auto end?

Giles Corey

So you’re asking in the case that it’s a 2v2v1 (with the 1 being a traitor), would the game auto end?

no

12:26 a.m.

3v2v1

No

and in 2v2v1

12:27 a.m.

now that you said that?

12:27 a.m.

No

aight

12:27 a.m.

lol

12:27 a.m.

alright then

This is assuming an unrecruited traitor

doesnt matter

12:27 a.m.

yeah

12:27 a.m.

ik

12:27 a.m.

if they get majority they have p much autowin

Giles Corey

No

Why not?

12:27 a.m.

Like logistics wise

12:27 a.m.

Mafia autowins

unless we have powerful pr's alive

Oh

12:28 a.m.

Pr’s exist

12:28 a.m.

That’s right!!!

Toof (Sam)

Why not?

Because I don’t feel like using my head

which by then isnt that likely

To calculate auto wins

and if traitor is not recruited

12:28 a.m.

i doubt we have more than 3 pr's

I forgot about pr’s fr

one of which is IC

Hi!

hi

I am the IC.

ik

Toof (Sam)

I forgot about pr’s fr

How? You talked about me being IC.

Cuz i’m silly idfk

12:29 a.m.

It’s also

12:29 a.m.

12:30 am

12:29 a.m.

After i woke up at 4 am

12:29 a.m.

(Don’t ask)

callahan will be a pain for me this game, feels like it

6:30 am for me at the moment.

keaton why are you being lowkey reserved about your reads?

I'm unconfident.

well ofc

12:31 a.m.

but what's wrong with outing unconfident thoughts

12:31 a.m.

it can encourage discussion n stuff after all

12:31 a.m.

especially bc you always elaborate at least a bit

I thought it was you, Kirin, and Kiri. But, I'm rethinking.

i need to read kirigiri honestly

12:32 a.m.

kiri isnt particularly scummy but sure as hell can be townier than that

12:32 a.m.

interesting you team me up with those two tho

12:33 a.m.

im assuming the kirin thing is bc

I can copy and paste my thought progress if you want.

my reaction to you saying "let's go with that" and voting kirin?

Deleted User

I can copy and paste my thought progress if you want.

im ngl i wont read them rn

12:33 a.m.

(assuming they are...not short)

They are not.

yeah

Ngekop

my reaction to you saying "let's go with that" and voting kirin?

this tho?

But, still, I'll post them so other people can talk about them.

like me voting kirin, explaining stuff

12:34 a.m.

and then when you go for that as well

12:34 a.m.

me being like "wait no why"

12:35 a.m.

is that it?

No.

Ff

12:35 a.m.

F*

12:35 a.m.

then idgi

These reads are before recent events things have changed.

12:36 a.m.

My suspicion falls on Ngekop as scum due to his tendency to excessively overreact to various situations, especially when they involve him directly. While he desires action, his reactions to events directed at him often lead to noticeable freak-outs. He consistently harped on the topic of the traitor and BG, which raises suspicions unless he happens to be the BG himself. I don't anticipate significant contributions from him. His unwavering certainty about Luka's alignment, whether town or traitor, raises doubts. He lacks clear town reads, and his peculiar interactions with Kiri are disconcerting. There's an unsettling sense that he's deliberately creating an unnatural distance between them. Furthermore, he doesn't fully elaborate on his thought process, leading me to consistently inquire for more information. He appears to withhold certain aspects of his thoughts and doesn't share everything he's thinking.

12:36 a.m.

In my view, Kirin's alignment leans towards scum due to Ngekop's vote aligning with them for the same reason as Dec, yet without Ngekop actively advocating for the Kirin vote. Despite Ngekop's claim that he'll gather information from the vote, he's not attempting to initiate a counter wagon or emphasize the shared rationale. Additionally, Ngekop disengaged from Dec's wagon early, suggesting a strategy to avoid responsibility if the wagon succeeds. This line of thought also raises the possibility of Dec being scum, although I'm still in the process of evaluating this scenario. Hm.

lol what

Kiri being the traitor.

Ngekop

lol what

My opinions are changing as the game progresses.

i was getting annoyed at you and callahan

12:37 a.m.

not overreacting

12:38 a.m.

just you agreeing and working together in smth i didnt even like

12:38 a.m.

also i hate so much when you say "you havent done anything" when i think by that moment many people including callahan

12:38 a.m.

werent doing anything

12:39 a.m.

in fact callahan has lowkey just followed what you have said

Ngekop

also i hate so much when you say "you havent done anything" when i think by that moment many people including callahan

I just like digging at people, which isn't the greatest trait to have when you are confirmed town. I'm working on fixing that.

Ngekop

in fact callahan has lowkey just followed what you have said

Yeah. This is true.

but yeah that reaction

12:40 a.m.

was tilted to what felt like unfair criticism in my gameplay

12:40 a.m.

not even in me being towny/scummy lol

12:41 a.m.

which is also why i asked about why you said what you said

12:41 a.m.

about

12:41 a.m.

"let's follow that thought process sure"

Oh. I was toying with you.

bc it did feel like it could just be

12:41 a.m.

you being condescending

12:41 a.m.

which would be

12:41 a.m.

smth that would get me really mad

12:42 a.m.

and well to the fact that im not getting info of anything im claiming can give info

12:42 a.m.

is just bc

12:42 a.m.

1. few people have even talked

12:42 a.m.

after those things happened

12:43 a.m.

2. it is way easier to do stuff that you believe will give out content/info in general than actually getting that info

12:43 a.m.

i think i might be capable of that but rn i dont feel like it

12:43 a.m.

i do believe wagons forming around many people is helpful tho

12:43 a.m.

i think the game where i had my best d1 reads

12:43 a.m.

i had to form wagons on like

12:43 a.m.

5 townies or smth

12:44 a.m.

ended up with 6 locked towns (in this setup) and a 2/2 in mafias and just pool of 4 for the last in which one person was pr either way

Deleted User

My suspicion falls on Ngekop as scum due to his tendency to excessively overreact to various situations, especially when they involve him directly. While he desires action, his reactions to events directed at him often lead to noticeable freak-outs. He consistently harped on the topic of the traitor and BG, which raises suspicions unless he happens to be the BG himself. I don't anticipate significant contributions from him. His unwavering certainty about Luka's alignment, whether town or traitor, raises doubts. He lacks clear town reads, and his peculiar interactions with Kiri are disconcerting. There's an unsettling sense that he's deliberately creating an unnatural distance between them. Furthermore, he doesn't fully elaborate on his thought process, leading me to consistently inquire for more information. He appears to withhold certain aspects of his thoughts and doesn't share everything he's thinking.

btw if i was bg

12:45 a.m.

i'd just claim it as soon as i saw you were IC

12:45 a.m.

and try to work with you

12:45 a.m.

having 2 clears working together is so helpful

12:46 a.m.

and you'd know i'm obv real bg bc if you die i'm confirmed scum bc i didn't protect you

Why would you out you're bg?

(well either that or you would just remain alive for a fair while and i would look scummy either way after not dying)

KadanRay

Why would you out you're bg?

bc bg goes on keaton tn

12:46 a.m.

so i'd die n1 regardless

Ok yeah fair

so better be basically mason duo d1 with another capable townie

12:47 a.m.

that will remain alive once i'm gone

12:47 a.m.

as i have said

12:47 a.m.

bg in this setup sucks

12:47 a.m.

i know it bc i was bg already

12:47 a.m.

in general MS's bg sucks

Ngekop

in fact callahan has lowkey just followed what you have said

I’m going to follow Keaton bc he is confirmed town which like what most ppl should do since he’s not like a bad confirmed town

1:00 a.m.

Like uk

1:01 a.m.

he can like think and he’s not like a sitting duck confirm town

1:02 a.m.

The worst part about Keaton being ic is that he will die in 1-2 which is a hindrance to town by A LOT, so the best case to do while he is here is to speak with him and like kind of see what he’s doing and thinking

Yeah Kaeton isn't the mafia

and follow his lead

KadanRay

Yeah Kaeton isn't the mafia

I think he is

Can traitor get IC btw?

nah IC is a town role

Ok ok

R u new to mafia

To this ruleset yes

1:03 a.m.

But I played lot of sdgs

how long have u played

I'm competent enough

1:03 a.m.

I don't keep track of time

So u like know mafia basically

Of course

1:04 a.m.

I was just thinking of ToS traitor here

1:05 a.m.

(Because I didn't read stuff yet, it was night before and I just woke up now)

Yeah makes sense

1:06 a.m.

I’m excited to see ur thought progress so far tho

I think Luka slip is genuine and they're town this game, kirigiri/nge/gamecube one is mafia who tries to blend in as game solver, although afk people make me think in their favour for now

1:08 a.m.

Aka there are people like Seany who contributed nothing

1:08 a.m.

Although it's still D1 so maybe pr would like to stay suspicious?

1:09 a.m.

To do their actions and not get killed

1:09 a.m.

Aka hold that semi-sus vibe

charlie

I’m going to follow Keaton bc he is confirmed town which like what most ppl should do since he’s not like a bad confirmed town

not what i meant

1:11 a.m.

the observations/thoughts/concerns you have been outing as your own

Did I miss read it’s late sorry

have been things keaton said or hinted right before

Damn I’m lowkey keatons dog

lol

1:12 a.m.

never really said that

1:13 a.m.

all i'm saying is

1:13 a.m.

either you fr are so

1:13 a.m.

in

1:13 a.m.

sync

1:13 a.m.

withkeaton

1:13 a.m.

with keaton*

1:13 a.m.

or you are just trying to elaborate on what he says as your own to look townier especially to him

1:13 a.m.

kadan towny

1:13 a.m.

anyways

1:14 a.m.

i dont think i can really argue against the argument of a maf in kiri/gc

I think sams dumbtell is actually genuine just so I can put something out there

but i dont sr either

1:14 a.m.

and they both have stuff i liked lowkey

Danger!? Luka!

I think sams dumbtell is actually genuine just so I can put something out there

uh ok

I thought I was the one who first said the wagon on Dec was bad

1:15 a.m.

Not Keaton

charlie

Ig the vote on Dec is stupid

I did

1:16 a.m.

So I’m really not like

1:17 a.m.

Doing what u r saying

Deleted User

What's the point in voting Dec?

@charlie he was already arguing against it way before

charlie

I thought I was the one who first said the wagon on Dec was bad

i buy this tho (that you genuinely believed this and hence not copying keaton there)

1:28 a.m.

hmmm

I was about to comment that

outside of the emphasis on like

1:28 a.m.

"dont lie" "i am not doing that thing you are saying"

1:28 a.m.

i can agree on a callahan tr

1:28 a.m.

ig

Ngekop

@charlie he was already arguing against it way before

I didn’t even see that to be honest

I'm seeing a lot more town reads this game than usual

yeah i believe you

Gamecube

I'm seeing a lot more town reads this game than usual

same

Gamecube

I was about to comment that

what exactly?

1:31 a.m.

the fact keaton did say it before or the fact callahan most likely didnt notice and was genuine about not seeing keaton doing it before?

Was gonna say Callahan seemed genuine with believing she commented on it first

ok

1:32 a.m.

thought so

Gamecube

I'm seeing a lot more town reads this game than usual

now get why the feeling traitor can be unrecruited?

1:34 a.m.

i think it'd be more likely to have a lot of tr's when one of the mafias is uninformed

So far votes are 2 on Dec and 1 Kirin. Both inactive players

1:37 a.m.

wait a second

1:37 a.m.

@wizard lee

1:38 a.m.

Hello we exist

@Danger!? Luka! you are voting someone with ZERO posts

1:40 a.m.

They clearly havent even been online

Ngekop

@Danger!? Luka! you are voting someone with ZERO posts

They’re online

Regardless of alignment

Discord

Wait what

They’re playing hog warts legacy rn

Ih lol

1:40 a.m.

Oh*

1:40 a.m.

Well

1:40 a.m.

Uhm

1:41 a.m.

This feels angleshootish but alright

1:41 a.m.

You’re right tho

Ngekop

This feels angleshootish but alright

There fault for not being in perma invisible mode

@wizard lee come pls

Like I am

mafia is more important

Be a better player

I want a new wagon these are worthless right now

Let’s wagon wizard

What's that gonna give us

1:43 a.m.

Are they new?

Gamecube

I want a new wagon these are worthless right now

Sure

Gamecube

What's that gonna give us

A dead mafia hopefully

Wait wizard is a Pokémon fan

1:44 a.m.

I can speak to them

1:44 a.m.

@wizard lee what’s ur fav Pokémon and who is scum

Quagsire

Honestly

1:45 a.m.

One grass move and it’s gone

2 if I have protect

Yeah a spa grass move and he’s gone

1:46 a.m.

I’m literally playing Pokémon rn

1:46 a.m.

That’s kind of funny

Gamecube

Quagsire

Guys we have a locked scum

1:47 a.m.

charlie

I’m literally playing Pokémon rn

Not playing ig battliing on ps

1:49 a.m.

Battling

Bump most notable contribution to this game is sussing Nge, other wise it's just memeing and somehow not knowing about the innocent child

I’m more use to bump talking more

1:49 a.m.

Which I’m like why aren’t u talking

and the sus is the basic nge sus message without any evidence I've seen every game lately

maybe some beef

Bump talked last game and memed the entire time

1:51 a.m.

Didn't do anything to help, but Bump did replace into day 3 I believe

Last game I played with bump I died super early but I was still watching and he was like solving

1:51 a.m.

he did meme and stuff but he was generally engaged

i hope we are talking about different games

we def r

1:52 a.m.

uhhh I’m talking about

1:52 a.m.

Ne41

54 for me?

1:52 a.m.

oh good

Wait I think I played 54 too

1:52 a.m.

And he just voted me out

Yes his only read that game that I recall was Calla bad with no justification

me and bump tight like that

Bump's conduct seems to be similar here though

I always can count on them to vote me out

1:54 a.m.

yeah

1:54 a.m.

Hm

1:54 a.m.

hmmmmmmmmm

1:54 a.m.

Ig they play differently with different ppl

1:55 a.m.

They was a early sub for my recent game with them

1:55 a.m.

Like day 1

I played with Bump. They were solving at some points, but mostly following other people's reads, but they had their own too.

Perhaps my game was an outlier then

2:00 a.m.

maybe not wise to base a read for Bump on meta then

charlie

Not playing ig battliing on ps

unrelated, but are you referring to Showdown? Haven't played that in a while. Glad it's potentially still alive

2:13 a.m.

as for the vote, Bump is a fine vote for now

charlie

@wizard lee what’s ur fav Pokémon and who is scum

cringe me would say pikachu

2:13 a.m.

otherwise

2:13 a.m.

dragonite

2:14 a.m.

or salamence

2:14 a.m.

WAIT NO

I do still dislike Luka's conduct. Wizard, Kirin, Dec need to talk

2:14 a.m.

Greetings

i take that back

2:14 a.m.

alakazam

Gamecube

Greetings

hello

Is it safe to assume you haven't read

charlie

Which I’m like why aren’t u talking

…interesting

2:16 a.m.

You call out that on bump

2:16 a.m.

While defending dec’s inactivity on his wagon

2:16 a.m.

Saying he was probs just busy (when he never said that in here before)

2:16 a.m.

While bump has actually stated he’d be busy/afk

Gamecube

and the sus is the basic nge sus message without any evidence I've seen every game lately

wizard lee

cringe me would say pikachu

<3

2:18 a.m.

Basic but same

2:18 a.m.

!!

wait a minute

2:19 a.m.

i think I found something

charlie

Some ppl r busy

right here

2:21 a.m.

I reply that Dec should have mentioned as much, which Callahan replies with

charlie

Also he said it at the beginning when nothing was happening

with this

2:22 a.m.

If you go to Dec's first message, it's hello with nothing else

That’s

2:22 a.m.

What i literally

2:22 a.m.

Just said?

Sort of

2:23 a.m.

Callahan's saying it as if she's seen the message

Ngekop

While bump has actually stated he’d be busy/afk

Did not see that

Gamecube

unrelated, but are you referring to Showdown? Haven't played that in a while. Glad it's potentially still alive

Omg yes it's alive and I am talking about Pokemon showdown

Gamecube

Callahan's saying it as if she's seen the message

Tbh what i think could be a slip there is dec saying in mafia chat (assuming they picked daytalk) that he’d be busy (or just pregame honestly)

2:24 a.m.

But

2:24 a.m.

Calla+dec

he did the same for our mafia game

Is not likely imo

Gamecube

he did the same for our mafia game

There however

2:25 a.m.

He didnt have the alive like role

2:25 a.m.

I meant when we were evil together

Yeah I didn't see the fact he said he was going afk but like I'm still use to bump talking more

2:25 a.m.

so like whatever

2:27 a.m.

He didn't say he was going afk?

Nope

Then why am I being like scrutinized

2:27 a.m.

Just bc Ik personally he’s more active

Because it seems as though you have seen that message when it doesn't exist in this chat at least

What message

one where he states being busy

I’m literally so confused rn

2:29 a.m.

Me saying why aren’t u talking is like

I'm talking about Dec

2:29 a.m.

not Bump

how do I phrase this

2:29 a.m.

Oh

2:29 a.m.

bc he’s not talking so I would assume he would be busy bc he just said hello and left

2:30 a.m.

which is a correct assumption to make..?

charlie

Also he said it at the beginning when nothing was happening

doesn't seem like an assumption here

I think u guys r at the point that u r just pulling bullshit reasons out

Couldn't see any other context applying to the comment

Gamecube

doesn't seem like an assumption here

I’m talking about his hello

2:31 a.m.

?

hm yeah alright

uh ok

2:32 a.m.

If you look at the conversation it seems like you're answering my comment just before

I’m going to be soooooooo real with u on this

go ahead

Gamecube

I meant when we were evil together

OHHH

This is actually one of the worse reads I have ever seen in my whole mafia career

2:33 a.m.

and I seen a lot

I think it was a reasonable accusation

Of a terrible reads

charlie

He didn't say he was going afk?

Wait what

and I explained?

Ngekop

Wait what

I’m talking about bump

i should invite you to some games I play then

2:34 a.m.

I at least had some basis for it which you can't say for most

So like

2:35 a.m.

what r u going to do if I flip town and ur wrong

Seany148

not gonna be too active

Ok i didnt read the in the first hour of so part

charlie

what r u going to do if I flip town and ur wrong

Do you see me voting you?

I’m sorry it’s late but like u r little assumption or whatever is lackluster

the matter is solved

And I’m going to have to ignore u

2:36 a.m.

Until u rethink

charlie

bc he’s not talking so I would assume he would be busy bc he just said hello and left

Why assuming that for dec but not for bump

2:36 a.m.

(i.e. calling the wagon on dec dumb but starting one on bump)

Ngekop

Why assuming that for dec but not for bump

Pls keep reading

are you reading Callahan I dropped it?

it’s late I’m sorry

2:36 a.m.

It’s 3 am

I said "yeah alright" after you said it was for the hello

and I’m multitasking

charlie

what r u going to do if I flip town and ur wrong

No one’s even voting you rn

Gamecube

I said "yeah alright" after you said it was for the hello

I thought u were saying I was lying

2:37 a.m.

Like a uh sarcastic lie

charlie

Pls keep reading

Did so

2:37 a.m.

Still didnt find an answer to that

Ngekop

Why assuming that for dec but not for bump

Bc bump always talks more then from what seen out of Dec

2:38 a.m.

There

@Deleted User i trust you can make smth out of callahan’s response to all this

charlie

Bc bump always talks more then from what seen out of Dec

Yeah but bump can be

2:38 a.m.

busy :0

Ngekop

@Deleted User i trust you can make smth out of callahan’s response to all this

She’s dumb.

Mdifdksibwodsbbww

2:38 a.m.

Lmaoooo

She's just being dumb. I don't know how else to say it.

You didnt say anything like that in your ne41 player chat sus

She's smart, but she's dumb right now.

What about her alignment

2:39 a.m.

If by eod you call her town still

2:39 a.m.

And ask for us to never vote her

2:39 a.m.

I never will

dumblean or smartlean?

What

keaton keeps talking about her acting dumb

No. She's being dumb but she's town.

2:42 a.m.

Second-hand embarrassment right now. @charlie

Bruh

I would feel offended being called dumb

2:44 a.m.

I am

Ok I'll kill the child N1 for you then dw bb

Bro thank u

Callahan

2:46 a.m.

Listen

2:46 a.m.

Whatever you are

2:46 a.m.

Town

2:46 a.m.

Mafia

be real with me

Breathe

2:46 a.m.

And go to sleep

charlie

be real with me

I have always been so far i think

I was requested to sub in for this mafia game that’s why I’m up

What

Outside of here

Oh ok

my own community

Uhm

2:47 a.m.

Ok but

2:47 a.m.

Arent mafia games there

2:47 a.m.

Way shorter?

this game been going on for 3 hours

2:48 a.m.

it just ended tho

2:48 a.m.

it was a high pl count

Ok well

2:50 a.m.

Then go to sleep now

2:50 a.m.

You need it

It might be best to call it a night, Callahan. Being confused and hostile isn’t helping you right now.

^^

It's making you look dumb.

Okay damn

Uh

2:52 a.m.

I know you arent dumb

2:52 a.m.

But i also know if you’re maf you can just slip or smth (which although convenient for me doesnt sound really fair)

2:52 a.m.

And if you’re town you wont look better with what you do know AND you wont get anything useful either for your own reads

2:53 a.m.

do now*

True true I'm going to bed

Gn!!

2:55 a.m.

I should be doing the same

Gc if you’re scum you’re playing well so far btw

2:57 a.m.

Gj

Just realized Wizard just talked about Pokemon and just left lol

This will be quite the game fe

2:57 a.m.

Fr

Hope the same applies to town

Let’s see what happens with this

Fun game so far

Really?

Gamecube

Hope the same applies to town

Who knows

Lots of activity from a variety of people

Seems like typical d1

3:00 a.m.

Imo

3:00 a.m.

Dec/bump/wizard/kirin have basically no content

3:00 a.m.

That’s 1/3 of the table

Yeah forgot about them

3:02 a.m.

Seems like good activity for what is the first quarter of the day

Ig

3:02 a.m.

Will be interesting to see kiri catching up

3:02 a.m.

Also kinda rethinking initial lean on sam

3:03 a.m.

Waste of time trying to actually solve him d1 ig

Played a lot inactive ne games here in the past so maybe the numbers seem grand to me when they're not

Atp im assuming we’re playing with unrecruited traitor and therefore hunting for a pair of 2 people and that’s it, once done with them hunt for traitor

Which I'm not sure how that's accomplished

Wait i actually think

3:06 a.m.

Should we just

3:06 a.m.

Make bg out (or confirm it doesnt exist)?

Didn't you suggest that earlier

Bg always dies tn saving keaton either way

Gamecube

Didn't you suggest that earlier

Kinda

Oh wait it was "if I was bg"

I said i’d do it if i was bg

3:06 a.m.

Ye

3:06 a.m.

But now im thinking

3:07 a.m.

Just make whoever is actually bg do that

3:07 a.m.

Bc if you dont go on keaton you’ll never be cleared as bg unless you die

3:07 a.m.

And unless there are more pr’s you could save

3:07 a.m.

You’re as good as useless

Bg just protects and dies in the process right?

But if you out today you get cleared for the day and get to discuss with the IC

Gamecube

Bg just protects and dies in the process right?

Mhm

3:08 a.m.

It’s so weak and dumb seriously

Is there a version where the attacker dies too?

Yes but this is the MS version

Could be useful depending on roles present

Also wont happen but

3:09 a.m.

If there are two attacks on your target

3:09 a.m.

Both yoh and your target die

3:09 a.m.

And if any prs claim. So maybe best we wait for Kirin to show up

Lol

3:10 a.m.

I think it’s always useful to know if there’s a bg

Jokes aside though (well sort of not joking) I'd save it for if we are really stuck on who to lynch

Or not

3:10 a.m.

Like if there is not

3:10 a.m.

I think it’s useful for keaton to know and to be 100% sure he dies tn

I think I’ll die tonight.

And if there is then it will be the same thing assuming bg does as they should and go on keaton (bg dies)

Deleted User

I think I’ll die tonight.

Same but in this case how would it hurt to make everyone confirm there isnt a bg in this setup

Ngekop

Same but in this case how would it hurt to make everyone confirm there isnt a bg in this setup

Yeah. I wouldn't mind that.

So…wanna ping the alive line and ask them to claim if they are bg or not

3:13 a.m.

If you (the IC) says it they’ll listen

3:13 a.m.

Say*

Are we allowed to do that?

Yes

Yeah it's allowed

Just dont spam ping it or smth

@Alive line MA If anybody is BG, please claim.

Though again I think it's better saved to protect

3:14 a.m.

Oh well

I'm definitely not bg

I hc not bg ofc

3:15 a.m.

@Gamecube wbu

I'm not BG either.

Nope

3:16 a.m.

I will feel really bad for the bg either way

3:16 a.m.

Omfg being bg sucksssssss

3:16 a.m.

You exist to die

3:16 a.m.

That’s your job

3:16 a.m.

Keaton is worth saving tho

Unless you're selfish or aren't reading

As i have stated before when i was bg i didnt save outed vig bc it was kirin yang

3:16 a.m.

But i did go on my tr

3:17 a.m.

(I was n1’d either way)

This version of bg really sucks then

Gamecube

Unless you're selfish or aren't reading

If you arent reading that’s what the ping is for

3:17 a.m.

If you are selfish…idk

3:17 a.m.

I think keaton is worth saving

3:18 a.m.

And probably you wont get a better target to save

Basically your power increases your night kill chances

So your ability would be useless

3:18 a.m.

And it wouldnt even work as a clearing thingy

3:18 a.m.

Bc no one will consider you clear

Gamecube

Basically your power increases your night kill chances

Indeed

I should mention I'm flying back to the USA today, I have two layovers, so I should be fine, and can still keep a rapport going.

Aaaaaaaa

7:18 a.m.

I went to bed super early

charlie

He didn't say he was going afk?

SLEEP EXISTS???? Y'all this was at 2am my time

Alright so

10:15 a.m.

Let's get some content done cuz a mafia game during vacation isn't helpful

10:18 a.m.

Okay so I do not like how Callahan tried to deflect off of Dec and onto me (for obvious reasons, I'm biased)

That doesn't make sense.

No no

10:20 a.m.

Wait for the following

10:21 a.m.

However, it would not make sense for maf!Calla to just try n deflect off of Dec for such a basic reason (D1 inactivity) onto me (also inactive)

10:21 a.m.

+ my gut feeling on callahan is always wrong

10:21 a.m.

So for that

10:21 a.m.

I townlean Callahan

10:23 a.m.

This sounds very flawed and it is

10:23 a.m.

I'm tryna read back on my cellphone while we're getting ready to go to playa trolley

I'm Imp!Kadan

Shush

10:23 a.m.

Check mafia day chat!

Alright yeah I'll wait till you finish so I can comment properly

no open claim

KadanRay

Alright yeah I'll wait till you finish so I can comment properly

oh i finished on calla

10:24 a.m.

LOL

Oh ok

10:24 a.m.

I think Calla is just trying to get someone not in particularly town

10:25 a.m.

Although inactive players who do not speak reads or opinion on current game state stall reading set-up and deductions

10:26 a.m.

Although I could for example stay inactive if I was pr for a first day/night

wait

10:26 a.m.

I mightve found a townslip

10:27 a.m.

which means nothing in this era

10:27 a.m.

but

10:27 a.m.

im proud

I only did this townslip about doctor because I participated in ne42 btw

not talking bout u

Just telling to you if you read people saying about my apparent town slip

Oh i wont search that much

10:28 a.m.

im just scrolling

Alright fair

asked giles bout something

10:29 a.m.

there's either a scumslip or a townslip clueless

10:31 a.m.

nvm either multiple scumslips or townslips lol

Deleted User

It's possible to interpret the situation as SvT, considering Callahan as the potential scum. In the earlier stages of the game, she complimented him, which could be seen as an attempt to gain his trust. However, she abruptly changed course and advocated for his death, a move that scum wouldn't make so hastily. Therefore, a TVT dynamic is more likely, as I currently hold town reads for both of them.

yknow what i freaking love you when you're not blasting my ass on max sound

Ngekop

kiri isnt particularly scummy but sure as hell can be townier than that

oh will you give it a rest this time nge

11:50 a.m.

no point in trying to make me look scummy just for the sake of keeping me alive this time

Ngekop

So…wanna ping the alive line and ask them to claim if they are bg or not

I guess you couldn't have known but that's incredibly annoying and frustrates a cute plan I had for today

11:56 a.m.

@Seany148 what are you on about?

kirigiri

@Seany148 what are you on about?

What

'multiple townslips or scumslips'

nothing

doesn't seem like nothing

Just something i read from sam

11:57 a.m.

then read from others as well

11:57 a.m.

made me question something

11:57 a.m.

giles hasn't answered yet tho

what did you think was a 'slip' though, am curious

11:57 a.m.

doesn't matter if it's wrong or not to me at this point

"nge is traitor and mad he didnt get recruited so he's trying to hunt scum"

aha I get you

You see what I mean?

kirigiri

no point in trying to make me look scummy just for the sake of keeping me alive this time

Not doing that

you said it yourself though nge, you tend to always know when I'm town

12:02 p.m.

so... what are you trying to prove?

kirigiri

you said it yourself though nge, you tend to always know when I'm town

Well not this time yet

Seany148

You see what I mean?

and I think so? depending on how you choose to view it - is sam subtly betraying the fact he doesn't know who the scum are?

12:03 p.m.

I mean I think I've been the towniest so far, without trying to sound too arrogant shrugg

Nooot exactly

kirigiri

I mean I think I've been the towniest so far, without trying to sound too arrogant shrugg

You

12:03 p.m.

Have not

go on then, justify yourself nge

Justify what

who do you have a stronger townlean on than me

me

12:04 p.m.

Probs gc/kadan

lmfao

12:06 p.m.

you're kidding right

12:06 p.m.

like you're actually pulling my leg with that

12:06 p.m.

if anything those two are probably both in my top three best votes right now

Ok

Ok woman

I know you've read the day so I'm baffled as to how you could have go thtere

12:07 p.m.

excuse me Kadan?

Ngekop

Ok

Are you not going to try to explain why they are town to you?

KadanRay

Ok woman

?

It was explained why nge thinks I'm town

you looked at Kadan just following my Dec vote, admitting it was a sheep

Now you go asking

Deleted User

Are you not going to try to explain why they are town to you?

‍♂️

Tbh idek

and given that you know the last time we saw someone do that, that was scum (your partner)

I remember i said kadan towny at some point last night

like I can understand you not wanting to place them immediately just based on that one thing but

12:09 p.m.

top townread?

12:09 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138652276731420703

Interesting.

kirigiri

top townread?

I tl many people

on GC

Which

12:09 p.m.

Sucks

12:10 p.m.

Luka could be it too bc of townslips

I asked you for your most salient townread and his name came to your mind first, that's not an accident

Yeah what you point out

12:10 p.m.

Is interesting and fair stuff

Ngekop

I remember i said kadan towny at some point last night

You paired Kaden with Callahan last night.

kirigiri

I asked you for your most salient townread and his name came to your mind first, that's not an accident

Gc has been there

As a scum team.

Deleted User

You paired Kaden with Callahan last night.

No i was saying a theory that would make callahan not town

12:11 p.m.

I explicitly said i dont even particularly sr callahan

not convinced on GC either, I think his attempts at investigation haven't rung that true to me so far

12:11 p.m.

and his interaction with Dec might be Pockety

I'm not sure on gc either

But felt uncomfortable with you treating her as locked town and not looking back

They kinda tried to solve but no real read on it

I explained my read thoroughly.

Ngekop

Gc has been there

Like i think i have melded with him quite a bit

Deleted User

I explained my read thoroughly.

I know

12:12 p.m.

And that’s fair

12:12 p.m.

Damn im sleepy and hungry

Go sleep and eat

12:13 p.m.

(during sleep)

we don't lynch callahan or Luka today, fairly confident of those being good choices

Mo

12:13 p.m.

No*

kirigiri

we don't lynch callahan or Luka today, fairly confident of those being good choices

Ik

if my suspicion of GC is based correctly then probably not Dec either

Hmm

12:14 p.m.

I should probs reread

12:14 p.m.

I have p much been there in every conversation

I'm not bothering as it's D1 reads that are 1/3 at best relevant and people will likely repeat

Looking from outside can be helpful

instinct from reading Sam/Nge is that that isn't two [informed] scum

12:15 p.m.

I think it's important that people at least try Kadan, even if there's less material to get through

12:16 p.m.

@Giles Corey btw give us some VCs I beseech you

Vote Count 1.1 (lazyGiles edition)

kirigiri - 1  (Ngekop)
Bump     - 1  (callahan)
wizard   - 1  (Luka)
Dec      - 1  (KadanRay)

kirigiri

given IC is there it means it's more likely that maf has picked more powers, all else being equal

What about now that no bg

not everyone has answered

12:25 p.m.

and rightly or wrongly someone might be concealing it anyway

12:26 p.m.

but, if you want the distribution given IC and ¬BG...

Ok uh

12:26 p.m.

Yeah kiri will be interesting

12:26 p.m.

To read here

What's happening

we redoing everything

Danger!? Luka!

You mean ne40?

Yes

Let’s kill wizard

12:34 p.m.

Meow

Ngekop

What about now that no bg

Uh

12:35 p.m.

What

12:36 p.m.

You’re mc kidding me right

Are you bg?

No

12:36 p.m.

But i am

12:36 p.m.

Extremely concerned

12:36 p.m.

As to why we’d have any pr’s claim

kirigiri

but, if you want the distribution given IC and ¬BG...

that's interesting - I make it ~29% | 26% | 29% | 15%

Bc bg dies tn

Why are we doing calculations

which seems counter-intuitive

Either way

When there is a blatant shot at JOAT

Let's just find scum

If there is a BG

Toof (Sam)

When there is a blatant shot at JOAT

There is no JOAT

Oh cool

mafia can pick JOAT

charlie

Let's just find scum

Well you’re not helping

Erm is there

12:37 p.m.

Any way you

12:37 p.m.

Know that

12:37 p.m.

Or are we just trolling along

Well

12:37 p.m.

1. I lowkey forgot mafia JOAT was a thing

ok

Goofy

charlie

Why are we doing calculations

as in, if we knew that one PR was in and one was out, what would the chances of the total no. of PRs be, all else being equal

2. Why would mafia use strongarm to kill keaton

might be useful to know

Icic

Ngekop

2. Why would mafia use strongarm to kill keaton

To frame a, bg claim that we’re asking for???

That just overcomes rb’er

Does it

Toof (Sam)

To frame a, bg claim that we’re asking for???

Eh

Not go over bg

Honestly

12:38 p.m.

No one picks joat

12:38 p.m.

Im willing to bet on that

I mean

12:39 p.m.

You’re not wrong

12:39 p.m.

But it’s still

12:39 p.m.

Silly

if they picked JOAT they probably picked two others as well

No it is not

12:39 p.m.

^^

If we got like wizard and kirin mafia

12:39 p.m.

They probably picked all 5

Kirin exists

12:39 p.m.

True

Let’s murder wizard

In fact

12:39 p.m.

They probably

12:39 p.m.

Picked 7

Danger!? Luka!

Let’s murder wizard

Nah

12:39 p.m.

Kirin

12:40 p.m.

Wizard is new and has over 2x posts

Toof (Sam)

They probably picked all 5

I would have picked all 5 and I think everybody should have done such Pr madness is fun!!!

Let’s pile up some on kirin

we could get wizard for playing hogwarts legacy

These are all valid points but

12:40 p.m.

Have you considered

Sam/Ngekop scum new guess

The true gigachad vote

Cuz I want chaos

Wump

12:40 p.m.

I agree with bump

12:41 p.m.

I think the mafia are ngekop and sam

traitor's face when mafia is ngekop/sam and we kill both of them D1/D2:

12:41 p.m.

Hold on wait

12:42 p.m.

I have an emoji for this

Im losing motivation for this ngl

12:42 p.m.

Callahan bad

Ngekop

Callahan bad

scum?

Still thinking more towny than scummy

It's literally one vote on u

What about me then nge

Seany148

scum?

No

oh

12:43 p.m.

im down to vote nge

if we're sacking an active

sicne my gut feeling is telling me they're scum

Ngekop also realizes we’re going to brutally lose on day 3 for little reason except for a town implosion

Ngekop

Still thinking more towny than scummy

People in here

i'd rather have GC than nge

I'm down to vote anyone except kiri

Huh i forgot what i was going to say

if nge's scum he will bus one of his partners for us

12:43 p.m.

so we should keep him alive

Yeah

12:44 p.m.

Im just out

kiri is not scum with how they've played so far

I mean saying that out loud could just mean he will do the opposite

Holy shit @Ngekop can u bus for me

Js when im mislynched town has a 0% winrate

Ok

what's that

12:44 p.m.

0/2 ?

Gl mafia

Ngekop

Js when im mislynched town has a 0% winrate

Cuz u mislynch everyone right before

kirigiri

0/2 ?

0/1

lmaooo

Seany148

Cuz u mislynch everyone right before

No dummy

12:44 p.m.

also

I pushed 2 mafs

12:44 p.m.

That game

kirigiri

lmaooo

Hope 0/2 tho

God trolling is fun

I mean what that tells us is that you just... rarely get lynched lol

No

Lets change that

12:45 p.m.

Fr

I get lynched a lot

12:45 p.m.

Just not as town

12:45 p.m.

And when that happens

12:45 p.m.

Town loses

12:46 p.m.

I did pull this act up

12:46 p.m.

In uh

12:46 p.m.

Co11

12:46 p.m.

However

how many times as mafia? trying to count but dno every game you've been in

12:46 p.m.

2?

This time i am lowkey legit about it

You use to co11 me on my co11phoneeeee

kirigiri

how many times as mafia? trying to count but dno every game you've been in

Let’s count

kirigiri

how many times as mafia? trying to count but dno every game you've been in

Dino

12:46 p.m.

1

12:46 p.m.

2

12:46 p.m.

3

12:46 p.m.

4

Oh oh i know

12:46 p.m.

Pick me

12:46 p.m.

5

One sec

12:47 p.m.

Im trying to think

12:47 p.m.

Wait

Kiri

12:47 p.m.

Are you going to be mad if I do not have a single read

12:47 p.m.

@kirigiri how many scum wins do i have?

Ngekop

@kirigiri how many scum wins do i have?

0

8

Ok so

Ngekop

@kirigiri how many scum wins do i have?

at least 1

12:47 p.m.

I have 2 L’s

12:47 p.m.

Meaning i got lynched in both

this game will be your 3rd L

Now i got lynched

12:47 p.m.

In uh

Seany148

this game will be your 3rd L

Dude shut up seriously unless you say something productive

Toof (Sam)

Are you going to be mad if I do not have a single read

at this moment I feel I do not have the capacity for anger

You know

Ngekop

In uh

Hm

Honestly

12:48 p.m.

I was crazy once.

I will be mad at Sam

12:48 p.m.

they put me in a room

When i was maf with sam and cait and kirin

kirigiri

8

9*

12:48 p.m.

I won the turbo!

Ngekop

When i was maf with sam and cait and kirin

wtf

Locked me in a room.

12:48 p.m.

I jumped out a window…

When i was maf with sam and kirin

that doen't count, it's like the community shield

having 1 of sam/cait/nge is good enough

And landed in the grass.

I got lynched 2

having 2 of them? jesus christ

Grass makes me crazy

3???? WHAT

Crazy?

then there's kirin

I was crazy once.

Yeah. How is this helpful to game-solving right now?

Seany148

then there's kirin

Both games he got bussed d1

12:49 p.m.

Btw

Deleted User

Yeah. How is this helpful to game-solving right now?

Not caring about that

12:49 p.m.

Rn

Obviously.

I bussed the entire mafia team and then like 3 more of them that didn’t exist

Im glad if y’all ml me y’all probs lose

It was really funny

Sam

12:49 p.m.

can u

Ngekop

Im glad if y’all ml me y’all probs lose

You have one vote on you?

Crazy?

cause some content at least

I was crazy once.

Deleted User

You have one vote on you?

I can read discussion tho

Seany148

cause some content at least

I mean

Cuz i wanna try n read you (warning: PTSD)

I can yes

12:50 p.m.

Will i? Probably not soon

Im not saying im getting ml’d

12:50 p.m.

Necessarily

12:50 p.m.

But i can see it is getting to a possibility

12:50 p.m.

I dont feel rn like fighting

I am in fact the opposite of motivated to play this game rn

And would just root for mafia

irl?

Bc y’all bad

Kinda both

12:50 p.m.

Irl and also just

And would be longing to see scum chat

12:50 p.m.

See the mafias

4 scum flips made me need a reset

12:51 p.m.

And so trolling is fun

fair

And see y’all tr’ing them

yeah i see

12:51 p.m.

dw

Gl mafia

If i like

12:51 p.m.

Desperately need to try

12:51 p.m.

I obviously will

Screw this idiotic IC

oh i don't feel like fighting, no sir no fighting today

Ngekop

And see y’all tr’ing them

who

Lmao

Okay.

But lord knows today is going for a ML

Seany148

who

Town

ohhhh

Toof (Sam)

But lord knows today is going for a ML

It is

what's majority

Seany148

what's majority

Nonexistant

@Deleted User are u goin for traitor or for not traitor (you’re voting traitor)

7

Toof (Sam)

@Deleted User are u goin for traitor or for not traitor (you’re voting traitor)

Shut up dude

12:52 p.m.

Y’all will blame me on this

12:52 p.m.

Idc

Keaton has never voted town

Bc the ones voting wrong are you

Toof (Sam)

@Deleted User are u goin for traitor or for not traitor (you’re voting traitor)

I'm only on Ngekop right now because he's freaking out when we have so much time.

Im just voting with the leader

Trust in Keaton

seven is majority, I think it is enabled from D1

Deleted User

I'm only on Ngekop right now because he's freaking out when we have so much time.

Im not really freaking out

kirigiri

seven is majority, I think it is enabled from D1

What

Sure.

It is

12:53 p.m.

yea

it doesn't say it's not

It is enabled

It is disabled

12:53 p.m.

No

12:53 p.m.

It is not

12:53 p.m.

Learn to read please

12:53 p.m.

Wait what am i thinking you clearly cant

where nge?

Oh sorry

12:53 p.m.

Mb, should've seen the "starting D2"

12:54 p.m.

On me man

12:54 p.m.

Anything I can do to pay you back?

oh in his final post

I cant bother with this

giles you knobhead

But majority is disabled

12:54 p.m.

Today

12:54 p.m.

Dummies

who reads what giles posts

he should put it in the info post then

Oh uh

that's what I was reading

Hey Giles

12:54 p.m.

There are votes

12:54 p.m.

and updates are not

Really?

I cant bother

Keaton you are the one voting wrong

Math time

let's not vote ngekop today please

You are the one who’s only legacy this whole game of the almighty

12:55 p.m.

Will be to lynch a townie and die

I hate to be the one to speak up on behalf of a self-voter

12:55 p.m.

Dont you dare blame it on anyone else

12:55 p.m.

(Me)

but I don't think this is a good idea

Why kiri?

Kiri can easily be

If you say he sounds genuine

A not stupid town

I will

12:56 p.m.

jump off the balcony

Or a maf wanting to take credit

12:56 p.m.

For this

I don't think that he is more likely mafia than town at this point

FUUUUUCK

Okay.

alright

Is bump town?

12:56 p.m.

Damn

12:56 p.m.

Nooooooooo

12:56 p.m.

;—;—;—;

i'm not

and what would be the point of of saving you if i were mafia nge

Hey!

im just pocketing kiri

BUMP

12:56 p.m.

YOU DUMMY

12:56 p.m.

PLACE YOUR VOTE BACK

12:57 p.m.

WE GOTTA FOLLOW THE TOWN LEADER

No

12:57 p.m.

Do I have an history of following Keaton trolley

AAAAAAAA

12:57 p.m.

HE UNVOTED

Seany148

Do I have an history of following Keaton trolley

Ok he unvoted

12:57 p.m.

You can vote back now

12:57 p.m.

But i dont encourage it

12:57 p.m.

Bc he isnt voting

I am town leader now

12:57 p.m.

Keaton followed me in the unvote

Oh my fucking god.

Lmfaoooooo

Deleted User

Oh my fucking god.

First time im having fun this game im sorry

12:58 p.m.

You had it coming for yday tho >:(

No. I'm actually trying to not dig at you.

Follow the leader the leader the leader

Deleted User

No. I'm actually trying to not dig at you.

DIG?????

12:58 p.m.

I USE EARTHQUAKE

Deleted User

I'm only on Ngekop right now because he's freaking out when we have so much time.

True good point

I'm taking a break before I get banned.

Toof (Sam)

True good point

??????

Seany148

I USE EARTHQUAKE

Holy shit 200bp move

Deleted User

I'm taking a break before I get banned.

Lol

Ngekop

??????

True goodcpoint

Im doing the best i can

Oh uh guess I’m doing prods too while I’m here

Kirin prodded W

What about wizard

True

does kirin get a double or a single prod

okay so

Single

12:59 p.m.

He did post once

does it count as a content bearing post

CANF D NO IS DIDHS

Ngekop

CANF D NO IS DIDHS

True good point

Ngekop

CANF D NO IS DIDHS

Agreed

canf d no is didhs

CANT I GET A SATISFACTION OF GETTING VOTED OUT AND CALL TOWN DUMB

Idk who to vote at this point

no you fucking can't

charlie

Idk who to vote at this point

True good point

i feel like nge is townbaiting as scum

Wtf does that even mean?????

Seany148

i feel like nge is townbaiting as scum

True good point

Ok so Mafia Engine is not working so I guess I’m doing it manually

Ngekop

Wtf does that even mean?????

True good point

Giles Corey

Ok so Mafia Engine is not working so I guess I’m doing it manually

False bad point

Sam stop spamming pls

1:01 p.m.

Tyvm

I’m not spamming

kirigiri

no you fucking can't

That’s unfair

1:01 p.m.

I got sl’d even a bit

maybe dec is mafia?

For behavior before

1:02 p.m.

Stick to it

as you've well learned

1:02 p.m.

this game isn't fair

Dont change based on stupid ate

I’m creating content via the agreeance or disagreeance with my fellow players sentiments, perhaps revolving around my own agenda if I am mafia or the thoughts spinning around my head if I am a member of the town.

Bc it isnt ate

1:02 p.m.

Bc im not appealing

1:02 p.m.

Bc i want to say town has a 0% wr when ml’ing me

1:02 p.m.

And double the sample size

Ngekop

Stick to it

STICK???

As an astute member of this town, what my friend Ngekop does not realize is that the common phrase “ATE”, or Appeal to Emotion, does not actually require any appeal. The psychological impact when someone gets upset or distraught in a game would be to then help them calm down, by therefore unvoting them and attempting to reconsider them.

Oh no

the thing is Nge I know you don't operate in this game that emotionally, even when it looks like toy do

PTSD

Toof (Sam)

As an astute member of this town, what my friend Ngekop does not realize is that the common phrase “ATE”, or Appeal to Emotion, does not actually require any appeal. The psychological impact when someone gets upset or distraught in a game would be to then help them calm down, by therefore unvoting them and attempting to reconsider them.

I know this

1:03 p.m.

Im saying i hate that

Toof (Sam)

As an astute member of this town, what my friend Ngekop does not realize is that the common phrase “ATE”, or Appeal to Emotion, does not actually require any appeal. The psychological impact when someone gets upset or distraught in a game would be to then help them calm down, by therefore unvoting them and attempting to reconsider them.

i thought every mafia player was saying ate as in she ate

Lmafo

kirigiri

the thing is Nge I know you don't operate in this game that emotionally, even when it looks like toy do

I wasnt even being particularly emotional rn

And i cringed so hard every time

Idk if it came out like that

only weird thing is that this day is not like most D1s, feels more difficult to get a handle on

Jesus christ I mightve thrown games cuz of that before

Ngekop

I wasnt even being particularly emotional rn

I felt that way yes, but it does look like you have wild mood swings, superficially

Ngekop

I know this

Well then from my point of view (also known as fmpov), the member of this game Ngekop seems to be trying to avoid getting upset but has failed, and is therefore trying to get into a less emotional position so that more people will vote them. However, in doing so, Ngekop is actually letting more emotions show and therefore making their alignment all the more clouded.

kirigiri

I felt that way yes, but it does look like you have wild mood swings, superficially

me when i'm off my meds but genuinely

Let’s flip wizard

1:05 p.m.

sure!

I feel like wizard is town bc wouldn't mafia be trying harder?

sure!

charlie

I feel like wizard is town bc wouldn't mafia be trying harder?

I afk as both mafia and town

Danger!? Luka!

I afk as both mafia and town

Nvm

charlie

I feel like wizard is town bc wouldn't mafia be trying harder?

vee moment

1:06 p.m.

Oh shit yeah

1:06 p.m.

Ugh

Also me moment

There is so many what ifs

(i am scum JOAT and I afked D1)

kirigiri

only weird thing is that this day is not like most D1s, feels more difficult to get a handle on

I believe what my old pal Kyoko Kirigiri is trying to state is that while normally they have a much easier time deducing at least 1-2 solid townreads and scumleans, it seems this gamestate is providing a much more volatile area where nobody is particularly or towny - which could be a byproduct of a traitor being unrecruited OR the IC making the day harder to process.

U sound like Keaton

Keaton is scum in this game

okay so like

1:07 p.m.

no he is

all i got from that was Sam telling me I was old

Oh

charlie

U sound like Keaton

My fellow Keaton makes paragraphs such as I am doing currently, but he seems to be much more focused on the methodicality of his words whereas I am more explanatory in my thoughts as of this moment.

My fellow Keaton

kirigiri

I felt that way yes, but it does look like you have wild mood swings, superficially

No like

1:07 p.m.

I genuinely just

1:07 p.m.

Felt like

10/10 for Keaton taking a break before saying something rude

Giving up and then switch to watch town be fumb

kirigiri

all i got from that was Sam telling me I was old

My apologies, you are not old but rather this game state is very complicated due to the mess the Mafia may have created in our head.

but yeah, the fact that we have a revealed town is throwing me

Dumb*

charlie

10/10 for Keaton taking a break before saying something rude

where do u know keaton from and for how long?

Bye anyways

just curious

my community if ur ic u don't get like shown unless u want to be shown

Imma watch tv

That is called Mayor.

Seany148

where do u know keaton from and for how long?

Ik him irl for like six years I’m dating him lol

I am quite a fan of speaking exact proper English. I believe I am quite distinguished in a manner such as this.

charlie

10/10 for Keaton taking a break before saying something rude

he should say something rude (as in I'm not joking)

charlie

Ik him irl for like six years I’m dating him lol

I mean, not saying he should start saying slurs but

kirigiri

he should say something rude (as in I'm not joking)

Let Keaton speak

️

so that's why he has a bias

1:09 p.m.

i c

1:09 p.m.

if this game is lacking something it's pointy edges

Back

1:10 p.m.

What did I miss

kirigiri

if this game is lacking something it's pointy edges

May you please clarify what you mean by this?

300+ messages

kirigiri

he should say something rude (as in I'm not joking)

Start dropping baldurs gate spoilers that’s pretty rude

Danger!? Luka!

Start dropping baldurs gate spoilers that’s pretty rude

SPOILER

unexpected things for players to react to

spoiler: kinda NSFW

there's less mafia feeling around in the dark bc they know who to appeal to and how to tailor their game, or at least have an idea of it

Yeah wouldn’t mafia just suck up to Keaton bc he is confirm town

also, having my Dec wagon be shot down so comprehensively and so early was a bit annoying

So like Keaton going to probs give his read list before the end of the day and they want to be town on that

charlie

Ik him irl for like six years I’m dating him lol

OH WAIT WHAT

1:11 p.m.

BFODNSKD

Hm. Perhaps I could assist you in becoming a jagged edge that you so desire.

if not really to get Dec lynched necessarily, but the fact that people knew so quickly it wasn't going anywhere

BFODNSKD -Ngekop 20??-2023

02

kirigiri

also, having my Dec wagon be shot down so comprehensively and so early was a bit annoying

LETS VOTE DEC

Ngekop

OH WAIT WHAT

Yeah

Why sobbing

I’m laughing

I'm following kiri this game

??????

I think Dec is less likely to be mafia now, even with the paucity of reactions

kiri is my shtick

i-

1:12 p.m.

Cant you just use

kirigiri

I think Dec is less likely to be mafia now, even with the paucity of reactions

decide yourself

1:12 p.m.

Or

Oh I like using

I believe I shall get the ball rolling. I am in fact, the Bodyguard.

I just think you’re

1:13 p.m.

Crying

idk I feel like a old man if I use

When you use that

Toof (Sam)

I believe I shall get the ball rolling. I am in fact, the Bodyguard.

!!!

Toof (Sam)

I believe I shall get the ball rolling. I am in fact, the Bodyguard.

1. no you aren't 2. what

you know the funny thing is

Due to the reactions of the town, I believe that there is no Mafia JOAT and therefore this is a safe claim.

The funny thing is

Sam confirmed let’s get everybody confirmed

I am BG

Like i have genuinely

Everybody claim prs

Thoight

oh

Two bgs

that's a different funny thing

Toof (Sam)

I believe I shall get the ball rolling. I am in fact, the Bodyguard.

Oh ok

1:13 p.m.

Sam and keaton conf towns

Seany148

I am BG

That is quite unserious of you, my brother in mafia.

There's no way counterclaiming sam ends up wrong

Ok yeah this is a town win sadly

Toof (Sam)

That is quite unserious of you, my brother in mafia.

Trolm

1:14 p.m.

Ok I rescind my claim

1:14 p.m.

and i let kiri claim

but what I really wanted to do this morning was to post an unsubtle soft as bg that mafia would notice

I in fact, did the same thing.

Oh so Sam is bg I had him down as traitor

If im maf im not stupid

I am just, very overcomprehensibly bored.

what I was workshopping in my notepad

b
o
don't
you
go
under
at
random
d

I didn't get very far lol

Oof

Lol!

I remember when my status

1:15 p.m.

Was smth like that

So do we have counterclaims ooor

To form uh

but now would be pointless I think

A name

1:15 p.m.

Which i wont say

nah, I'm not claiming anything

Bc yikes

Oh

1:15 p.m.

sad

Ngekop

Bc yikes

whos Tftms

Not talking about the current one

Anyways, congratulations on your content @kirigiri . I am retracting my Bodyguard claim, for I am not.

It was like 6 months ago lol

Toof (Sam)

Anyways, congratulations on your content @kirigiri . I am retracting my Bodyguard claim, for I am not.

Ok

but the idea was to get mafia to get ahead of themselves, directly go for me and then be surprised when I wasn't

Not in the mood for all this

maybe wishful thinking

I stand by keaton having it coming

Lol.

Toof (Sam)

Anyways, congratulations on your content @kirigiri . I am retracting my Bodyguard claim, for I am not.

pause

For his yday thing

Oh.

Keaton I know you're bg

Oh he’s back

I am.

Deleted User

I am.

serious vote btw

1:17 p.m.

If you can think of a better one then tell me

Could you explain more?

D1 GC https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138652276731420703 - this interaction is quite weird, feel like maybe GC is making a pocket attempt on Dec? Butnot sure yet https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138668421823873024 - is there a therefore, GC? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138683070464131192 - 'new townslip'? what is? what I have written down so far on GC

1:18 p.m.

top one is most useful, the other two are just things I noticed but not sure if they fit into a pattern so much

Since kiri is my shtick

1:18 p.m.

Time to be a dog

as in read the whole interaction between dec and GC

okay so gc was my other traitor read so like I’m cool with a vote on him

bump's going to carry me away in their mouth or what

My reads rn: Bump - Scum tries to please town too much

traitor read?

I hope gc is scum ig

Like who I thought was traitor

yeah but I just am not sure how or why you'd read for them specifically

okay i rescind my calla TL

why they're more traitory than just informed maf

they weren’t strong scum reads so I just put my scum leans as traitors

1:20 p.m.

idk just made sense to me

1:20 p.m.

like u know how traitor might not be recruited

I see, but I'm not sure it works that way, as in traitors are less scummy than maf necessarily

1:21 p.m.

if they're making a bad faith TR or TL

I’m like putting traitors as ppl that r scummy on their own instead of pairing it with ppl

that can come from both equally likely

oke heading to pool

bc they could not be recruited uk

see you later bump

oh ill still be here

1:21 p.m.

just not nonstop

charlie

bc they could not be recruited uk

yeah but i don't see why them being informed chances how scummy they'd be based on how they make their reads

Seany148

just not nonstop

would have thought it wouldn't be a good idea to take your phone in the wate rmyself

idk if i go in yet

1:22 p.m.

prolly considering its too hot

kirigiri

yeah but i don't see why them being informed chances how scummy they'd be based on how they make their reads

Well it’s not just reads that make ppl scummy

cool but without flips, interactions are a bit more wishy washy

yeah but like u can pair ppl together with how they speak to each other like scum like to not be paired together so they like to distance themsleves but I’m not sure how well that works in this format since these games r so long

1:24 p.m.

like ur kind of forced to talk to everybody

1:24 p.m.

Or it’s like obvious if ur just ignoring someone

1:24 p.m.

so ig how they treat each other is a big one

1:25 p.m.

scum usually don’t fight early in the day bc it draws attention but later in the day with it’s critical

1:25 p.m.

when one of them r probs being voted out

1:25 p.m.

but also a lot of scum interactions with each other seem artificial

1:25 p.m.

which if we assume scum doesn’t have day chat bc apparently that’s a bad idea to pick

1:26 p.m.

their interactions r about to be really wonky since they can’t really plan and be like dude stop saying that to me and stuff in real time

1:26 p.m.

or like make sure u say this

1:27 p.m.

So like artificial interactions with scum especially today should be like big, scum is going to be wary of each other they r going to speak to each other but not really push

1:27 p.m.

I hope this is making sense

1:27 p.m.

Sorry if it isn’t

charlie

So like artificial interactions with scum especially today should be like big, scum is going to be wary of each other they r going to speak to each other but not really push

true, but without anyone who is flipped scum it's a bit harder to guage

1:28 p.m.

gauge?

1:28 p.m.

yeah that's the spelling

yeah but I’m looking rn either way for interactions with ppl that seem like uhhh idk want to put too much pressure on u bc I don’t want town to be on u

artificial interactions are a good thing to look for, nothing has really pinged me on that so far yet

Yeah I’m kind of looking for distance in a sense like who’s kind of distancing themselves from certain ppl

1:30 p.m.

so they don’t screw up

1:30 p.m.

Bc once scum is found u can just make connections with everything

i mostly am just going to miss the usual juicy EoD because with a revealed town the framework for how maf votes and acts changes

charlie

Bc once scum is found u can just make connections with everything

I like how you think

You can't really make a read on this because not everyone is active as other people, you can try but the three people who spoke little is messing with it

yeah like I don’t do well with lurkers

Me neither

so you two want one booted

They're hindering these type of not-so-mechanical games

would you care that much who it is atp

kirigiri

so you two want one booted

The thing is they could be town or a pr and pr often try to not be the center of attention

1:32 p.m.

There is so many what ifs

1:32 p.m.

and it like screws up everything

Yup

I would wish that every person atleast spoke

That's why I'm waiting for D2 tbh

Like a good fair decent amount

Most invest pr gonna out info

Like rn I’m hoping we have good prs like a tracker would be 10/10

1:34 p.m.

like game changing

1:34 p.m.

Or gooncop

1:35 p.m.

but since we know we have two town pr automatically, and we can get more prs if mafia picks like modifications

1:35 p.m.

but one of our confirmed town pr is ic

1:35 p.m.

it just sucks lol

I think it's either mafs picked everything or nothing

1:36 p.m.

I would pick daytalk and recruit, like I need daytalk if I’m mafia idc if it adds another pr to town like it’s what I’m use too

I wonder what wouldve happened if calla and i rolled og mafias

1:39 p.m.

Good thing that didnt happen ig

1:39 p.m.

Calla wouldve disliked me a bit hard

there would def be a fight in the pregame chat

1:39 p.m.

bc we def want different things

I would probs give you the recruit traitor but never the daytalk

1:40 p.m.

So that wouldve been a fight indeed

yeah like I would fight tooth and nail for that day talk

I love talking to my scum partners as scum

1:40 p.m.

I can’t wait for night

I probs wouldve ended up letting you pick that after a fight but then be annoying by never talking during the day

LMAFO

1:41 p.m.

fair

Ok

hi kirin

3:01 p.m.

could you vote Gamecube please

No bc im gonna read for the first time

that's alright, you'll see what I've seen then I guess

Ngekop

Kiri didnt roll toen

My guy ur lucky i cant be any killing role

KadanRay

Can mafia kill itself

No i think i tried as a vil so i dobt think so

KadanRay

Luka is just my teammate

KadanRay

Luka is just my teammate

KadanRay

Luka is just my teammate

3:12 p.m.

Srry for that thou it didnt send

Nice pings

3:13 p.m.

Perish

Srry

3:13 p.m.

Also slip

Ngekop

Voting sam

No not father

kirigiri

could you vote Gamecube please

????

kirin yang

My guy ur lucky i cant be any killing role

i was talking about kirigiri bro

what's puzzling about that

i agree what you quoted feels off

3:32 p.m.

but gc has a fair amount of content besides that

3:32 p.m.

yk

Greetings

hi

hello

ok so who tf pinged this guy in mafia chat

I've read Kirigiri's points I find them weak so I'll address it

alright so what is a better vote Nge

3:33 p.m.

and don't say callahan

You can't have strong points at this stage anyway

3:33 p.m.

So idk what's your measurement of weak

kirigiri

alright so what is a better vote Nge

callahan

First the townslip thing is a joke hence the siren emoji. Sam had asked about whether mafia could change anything about the setup mid game

And I jokingly wrote that there was another townslip

lol

Next the Dec post

3:34 p.m.

Callahan was stating that Dec was voting for just saying Hi

3:35 p.m.

I clarified by saying it was him only saying hi and leaving that folks found suspicious

opening with 'Hi' is very scumsided tbf

3:35 p.m.

was that not a good reason

And I didn't remember who argued that point so I stated your name when talking to Nge

and not really 'folks' that was what I said

3:36 p.m.

honestly I didn't really care that much whether it was good reasoning or not

kirigiri

opening with 'Hi' is very scumsided tbf

what

kirigiri

honestly I didn't really care that much whether it was good reasoning or not

THANK YOU

3:36 p.m.

@Deleted User

the day had stagnated and something needed to be added to the mix to generate interactions

@charlie

3:36 p.m.

there you gooooooo

3:36 p.m.

omfg

I literally say hi whenever I arrive

3:36 p.m.

I'm so scummy

3:36 p.m.

uh

3:36 p.m.

kiri

what

is there any way

3:37 p.m.

you vote kirin?

As for pocketing Dec, not sure what that would help with considering his inactivity

there might be a way

Pocketing Dec

this game is really hard

hence why i wanted to give up as well

3:37 p.m.

i cant be tr'd unless i solve everything or ate

I did tell him I wasn't voting him but it was because I didn't feel arguing for other people's votes

and i failed to solve everything

Yeah no way pocketing dec is anyhow good

3:38 p.m.

That man pays little attention

Gamecube

As for pocketing Dec, not sure what that would help with considering his inactivity

to me it seems like an obvious move to pocket the inactives

they're going to be paying less attention and you're gonna be keeping them in the game longer

kirigiri

to me it seems like an obvious move to pocket the inactives

why would

3:38 p.m.

anyone

3:38 p.m.

pocket the inactives

3:38 p.m.

??

Dec is gonna give L to town if they're one

same goes for kirin

Yep

btw did sam keep the bg claim or did he fr retract

Ret

if they'll just lazily assume you're town and vote with you then that's an easier asset to pick up as scum

lame

kirigiri

they're going to be paying less attention and you're gonna be keeping them in the game longer

One ping to an inactive telling them I'm evil could change their mind

3:39 p.m.

No use

inactive doesn't mean necessarily they're gonna be scumread

idt dec will take any approach like that

Dec could be anything

whatever

Better off just pocketing the actual people playing

kiri is not as towny as they can be and that's still causing me conflict

But the fact that if they're town it's just gonna end up in lose if he gets to end game

kirigiri isnt scummy but i feel like by now i should know kiri town

3:40 p.m.

I don't think it's a terrible strategy to keep players that are safer to keep alive as pockets

Ngekop

kirigiri isnt scummy but i feel like by now i should know kiri town

I don't know if you're town

Safer players at D1 othen than IC FOPSMOLEsmoke

easier to let them be voted out

kirigiri

I don't know if you're town

you never do unless you're mafia

3:41 p.m.

tbh

Regardless I don't see how I was pocketing there

even when you hard tr me you have some doubt

3:41 p.m.

there's no way i die and you're like "ok that's some peace bc now i don't have to be scared he's maf"

3:41 p.m.

wait

3:41 p.m.

and you aren't****

mhm

yeah

3:42 p.m.

on the other hand

3:42 p.m.

i always tr you d1 when you're town

3:42 p.m.

even when i was consigliere

3:42 p.m.

i found you town

Tr stands for?

town read

glad I'm improving in that regard then

Alright thanks

how is that improvement

don't want to be that easily read by you to be honest

it is only if you are scum

if it's LyLo then yes I want you to read me 100%

kirigiri

don't want to be that easily read by you to be honest

idts

3:43 p.m.

idt that's bad bc

or that you feel like you can

3:43 p.m.

I mean today it's whatever

3:43 p.m.

I'm not getting lynched am I

ok whatever

3:43 p.m.

sigh

3:43 p.m.

kiri isnt scummy either

3:43 p.m.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Did I miss anything or was it just the one post?

who tf are the mafias lmaooo

Gamecube/Kadan/yang feels like the lazy answer

3:45 p.m.

but would be surprised if that has zero

bump feels towny, kiri feels more towny than scummy, luka's townslip is genuine af, callahan is tr'd by most qualified players to tr her imo (i still won't be sold on her ngl but i realize if she is maf she def would go last if she ever does)

kirigiri

but would be surprised if that has zero

fair

3:45 p.m.

i dont agree on gc but i have yet to iso him and reread in retrospect

3:45 p.m.

and regarding kadan

3:45 p.m.

i'd be disappointed if they're scum tbh

Didn't you town read them

I am town just trust

Gamecube

Didn't you town read them

uh

define town read

Kadan I mean he mentioned that he was thinking of Doctor because he saw the role appear in an NE game

3:46 p.m.

so

if i had to guess i'd probs say town

3:46 p.m.

for their alignment

I'm kinda minded to throw out that 'townslip' entirely, either way he was conscious of where he was pulling that thought from

kadan can even lowkey be twtbaw

Twtbaw?

I don't think he's majorly pants on fire wolfish

kirigiri

I don't think he's majorly pants on fire wolfish

no

3:46 p.m.

but he def

but he followed me in a way that reminded me of that guy, daekon

is doing a lot of things that can easily be scummy

3:47 p.m.

when he doesnt really have to do them

when he followed me as scum, doing pretty much the exact same thing

Ngekop

define town read

You stated a few times they were towny and probs town yesterday

the insisting and repeating of luka town

3:47 p.m.

being constantly lurking while saying they wont do anything and just saying im town trust

Haven't caught up only looked at why I was being voted

Nge based it around townslip

3:47 p.m.

About saying I'm town

nah

3:47 p.m.

no

3:47 p.m.

i never

3:47 p.m.

used any townslip from you

3:48 p.m.

i said the part of not wanting to just try d1 to be killed n1 felt legit

3:48 p.m.

iirc

Bump is bumping

i might be stupid but i feel seany's town

3:48 p.m.

rn

Who's that

wouldnt mind a goon cop on him tho

not sure myself, I haven't seen anything that sticks out

Gamecube

Who's that

ducky

level one read is they are 'bored blue'

Bump is grey to me

kirigiri

level one read is they are 'bored blue'

mhm

He isn't paying attention much

but have been more typically active than one would think

Because busy on vacation

3:49 p.m.

Ngekop

ducky

And that's who

bump

3:49 p.m.

zzz

at least in they've been posting quite a bit, but in parts of the game where not much is happening

that can be just bad luck tbh

3:50 p.m.

his whole thing around me

Could have just said Bump then

isnt really scummy

3:50 p.m.

and him trying to sheep you there and unvoting bc you said

3:50 p.m.

unironically doesnt feel like a pocket

3:50 p.m.

as in a scummy pocket

Gamecube

Could have just said Bump then

k

it didn't feel like an earnest attempt to get on my side for its own sake I agree

and outside of that he's just

3:51 p.m.

as you said

3:51 p.m.

bumping

kirigiri

it didn't feel like an earnest attempt to get on my side for its own sake I agree

mhm

humpin' and bumpin' and thumpin'

k this is a lazy and easy vote but i dont have anything better and this guy will get lynched sooner or later (or if town might towntell to a wagon forming on him if we pile enough people to make it hard for him to just lazily omgus)

Yeah idm vote on kirin

keaton dies soon so i dont have to worry if he thinks im maf

3:53 p.m.

and only callahan would be sheep enough to blindly follow that even upon new input in the following days

keaton lives

?

look

3:53 p.m.

if I say it enough time

3:53 p.m.

s

3:53 p.m.

it'll come true

hi

allo

i saw bumping

3:53 p.m.

and say

3:53 p.m.

surely this isnta coincidence

3:53 p.m.

and waddya know it wasn't

3:53 p.m.

Y'all suck at reading me I'm scum clueless

Yeah you are

are you that much of a sicko

They lynched themselves last game

as what role

Citizen

huhhhhh

he has done that twice already

btw

possibly

3:55 p.m.

I hammered myself before

3:55 p.m.

cuz scum nge was the only one actually playing

:/

3:55 p.m.

but you didnt know i was maf

Seany148

Y'all suck at reading me I'm scum clueless

(yall suck at reading you though i was truthful)

self-hammering as town sounds like a good meta-strategy to win your scumgames

thought*

kirigiri

self-hammering as town sounds like a good meta-strategy to win your scumgames

what

Cuz then u can do crazy shot

3:56 p.m.

shit*

3:56 p.m.

and people will be okay

3:56 p.m.

is that what u mean

people think, better not vote them bc they'll self hammer as town

or that

3:56 p.m.

yeah

nah

Except i never roll scum

3:56 p.m.

AND WHEN I DO

just keep it at L-2

3:56 p.m.

constantly

I GET RNG KILLED

3:56 p.m.

DAY 1

3:56 p.m.

or night 1*

and if you want to hammer vote once more

3:56 p.m.

like

3:57 p.m.

not really that hard

(Once, in lily's game)

Ngekop

just keep it at L-2

well, thing is as much as we wouldlike to, as individuals we can't controll everyone's vote, so easier said than done

3:57 p.m.

anyway

you can just say it out loud

3:57 p.m.

doesnt matter ye

3:57 p.m.

who else is in here

je digresse

omfg the wizard guy

3:57 p.m.

ok so

3:58 p.m.

regardless

3:58 p.m.

i doubt all mafias decided to be npc's

king gizzard and the lizard wizard

Has he talked since the pokemon comment?

it's his first game here right

Yeah

and he came in with non-game related content hen a lot had been said

3:59 p.m.

probably he wasn't lurking then

so there's still maf in kiri/gc/luka/callahan/bump/sam/kadan

3:59 p.m.

wait that's awful

you named 50%+1 so i hope so

3:59 p.m.

LMFAO

i wasnt really attempting to narrow it down

4:00 p.m.

im stating the people who arent inactive af or clear fmpov

if we're going for an inactive then kirin I think is the correct pick

4:00 p.m.

if

to know where do i believe if i look into i will find at least one scum but likely two

Kirin did show up to read

'read'

Gamecube

Kirin did show up to read

...

Well yeah

he got through like 20 minutes and fucked off again

Might get something hopefully

4:01 p.m.

Fantastic nevermind then

i mean the scum framing is quite obvious

4:02 p.m.

and fits easier than dec or wizard right now

Ngekop

@charlie

For what

is Sam ever scum here? think I remember most about him is him lamenting the fact he rolled scum in four consecutive games

4:03 p.m.

and that amongst other things had sapped his motivation

idgi

4:03 p.m.

what are you trying to point ouot there

thinking out loud

4:04 p.m.

then you argue with him a bit about some nonsense

4:05 p.m.

initial thought was not s+s but idno, I think you two would joke about not being scum together if you did roll it - the big massive distancing post was him saying you were traitor who was pissed about not being able to find his partners

out*

Ngekop

and only callahan would be sheep enough to blindly follow that even upon new input in the following days

um wat

Looked at Kirin's messages and it was pretty sad. Figured there would be more after claiming to go read for the fist time

yeah go ahead I believe it

4:07 p.m.

not two informed scums together

Kirigiri you said you could read Kirin

4:08 p.m.

You see him as scum now or is it the inactivity?

I'll be honest I don't like what he's posted, I think it leans more his scumrange

4:09 p.m.

the weird thing that really pings me is that he apologised for triple pinging kadan

4:10 p.m.

i feel like when he's town he's just rude and not bothered about how people perceive him

4:10 p.m.

other than saying stuff like 'brainlet move to vote me' or something

He was like that in the one game we played

4:11 p.m.

Regarding the players perceiving him part

if kirin mafia, kiri probs town an would keep an eye on gc

4:11 p.m.

wait nv

4:11 p.m.

m

For not voting me?

Gamecube

Regarding the players perceiving him part

wdym

4:11 p.m.

like he was rude and not bothered about how he was perceived?

Kirin refused to vote me before claiming to be reading this game

4:16 p.m.

I wouldn't mind the Kirin vote at least. Dec I believe I can read after our last game. I'd also be okay with Wizard since they have done nothing but respond to a ping about Pokemon and not the ones asking to play.

Ngekop

like he was rude and not bothered about how he was perceived?

no im asking if you mean this

4:16 p.m.

@wizard lee are you going to play this game :/

We called his claim dumb and pointless a lot and he couldn't care less

4:17 p.m.

Any criticism that game flew over his head

ok yes

4:17 p.m.

ok so you agree with kiri's point

4:17 p.m.

that said tho

The only difference here is that it's a ping which could be annoying in real life outside the game

kirin didnt apologize for smth game related

4:18 p.m.

so idk if that would fit kirigiri's point

Gamecube

The only difference here is that it's a ping which could be annoying in real life outside the game

ye

4:18 p.m.

this

@kirin yang How's the reading going or are you busy?

i think we all know he hasnt read

I'll check Bump since they've talked since I last read them yesterday night

4:20 p.m.

Might as well try to get something

I'm going to reread everything and give a run down on every single person before Day One ends. I will have LONG paragraphs. But, I'll try to put power points at the end of them, in case people don't want to read out of courtesy.

4:23 p.m.

Nobody wants to read long paragraphs.

Thanks!

4:23 p.m.

❤️

Gamecube

The only difference here is that it's a ping which could be annoying in real life outside the game

i never got this idea of pings being annoying irl

Yeah I was rather joking there

4:24 p.m.

But appeared to be annoyed

4:24 p.m.

esp in mafia context, like you know what you signed up for, ofc people are going to want to get your attention and respond to you directly, like get a grip

Yep exactly

4:25 p.m.

Idm being pinged so do it if you want my response or smth

Deleted User

Nobody wants to read long paragraphs.

write as much or as little as you feel is necessary, I'll read it

Deleted User

Nobody wants to read long paragraphs.

idm

Deleted User

Nobody wants to read long paragraphs.

I do what

4:29 p.m.

I love wall posts

Gamecube

I'll check Bump since they've talked since I last read them yesterday night

what

4:31 p.m.

is that a pr claim

4:31 p.m.

dont go on me it'd ruin the joke

kirin yang

No not father

.

4:32 p.m.

taking a nap tbh

GN

gn

4:35 p.m.

if i disappear its because wifi shutdown

4:35 p.m.

we're having light flashes every minute or so

GL

️

kirigiri

i never got this idea of pings being annoying irl

I've seen people complain before

i know people do

4:38 p.m.

but it's lame

Instead of reading just Bump I just caught up fully

count yourself lucky if the most you're inconvenienced in a day is being pinged on discord lol

Indeed

4:40 p.m.

Bump seems mostly the same as yesterday. Memeing a lot and is still expressing their distrust of Nge.

4:41 p.m.

I did like the Callahan read, seemed like actual thought went into it, although they did retract it later didn't see why

4:43 p.m.

Nor really a fan of them sheeping onto my wagon. Especially with what I was accused of but I don't think it's scummy given the great options we've had this far.

4:46 p.m.

Luka from what I saw just advocated for Wizard's death and nothing else. He just seems to be trolling.

Not trolling

4:49 p.m.

I just want wizard

4:49 p.m.

dead

Gamecube

I did like the Callahan read, seemed like actual thought went into it, although they did retract it later didn't see why

Huhhhh

I dont really have any strong scum reads atp

Mostly trolling i think

4:49 p.m.

And

Like, I mentioned it before but I think sam / Kadan are both good

I'm sheeping kirigiri for no reason at all

but those are my only two priamry reads

other than the fact I TR them

4:51 p.m.

OH YEAAAH

4:51 p.m.

callahan having "traitor reads"

4:52 p.m.

ok so it wasn't trolling

4:52 p.m.

or well not totally

Gamecube

Nor really a fan of them sheeping onto my wagon. Especially with what I was accused of but I don't think it's scummy given the great options we've had this far.

Doesn't seem like you're doing much this game Luka

I feel like you have a bias

I wrote a paragraph about it but my app crashed Bruhge

Seany148

callahan having "traitor reads"

She explained why.

ppl got them moves

4:54 p.m.

I wanna go

If we are assuming the traitor isn't with mafia, it makes sense.

But parents said "ThUnDeR = uNsAfE"

4:54 p.m.

So what if I want to become The Flash

Deleted User

She explained why.

Didn't like it even with explanation but eh

4:55 p.m.

I'm always wrong on her so she's townlocked trolley

Seany148

I feel like you have a bias

I think you do

4:56 p.m.

I mean it is not safe to swim if there's lightning. I guess that resort doesn't agree lol

Danger!? Luka!

Not trolling

You're just repeating it and not even giving other thoughts

Gamecube

I mean it is not safe to swim if there's lightning. I guess that resort doesn't agree lol

there's rods everywhere

Gamecube

You're just repeating it and not even giving other thoughts

most of my attention rn is concentrated on other mafia games

They're prolly used to it

as opposed to this

Gamecube

I think you do

i mean ye my ass is hard sheeping

I love sheeping

One last thing I wanted to say before I go

5:02 p.m.

Not sure what the hell Sam is doing. There's a few serious posts written formally and then the rest is him just doing whatever

5:02 p.m.

And he's voting himself

5:02 p.m.

Gonna leave that reas up to others

5:02 p.m.

I'll vote Kirin for now as I want to see the reads

finally back

5:54 p.m.

though not for long

5:54 p.m.

did mean to prodge, sorry giles

5:55 p.m.

So someone please sum up again (cause its been over 12h i think)

Watch for Kaeton message in near future

5:57 p.m.

Might be long read but is overall read on table from IC viewpoint

Question.

6:07 p.m.

If mafia picks traitor as an option, are they added to the pregame chat to discuss further modifications?

6:08 p.m.

I should most likely ask the host. @Giles Corey

no

6:08 p.m.

they are not

pregame modifications are applied at the end of the pre-game phase

Okay. Thank you.

6:10 p.m.

So Luka doesn't get town cred for not understanding the pregame process. They can very well be traitor.

that's

6:13 p.m.

what i said ages ago

6:13 p.m.

ok

Yeah, but I didn't understand.

6:14 p.m.

I'm sure that you town read them now.

wait so what r we doing

I'm re-reading everything.

I was confused by Nge's suggestion that Luka might be a potential traitor. I had the impression that the traitor was added during the pregame chat. Based on my observations, Luka began decently, but their performance declined as more people town read them. At the moment, their vote is aimed at an inactive player, which is reasonable. However, Luka isn't adding much to the discussion. As far as I can tell, they mostly focus on themselves or asking for a wizard vote without providing reasons. In fact, I haven't noticed any explanations for their reads. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Deleted User

I'm sure that you town read them now.

when did i say that

6:32 p.m.

@Deleted User i believe tho

I misread. I forgot you said might.

luka is at most unrecruited traitor

6:32 p.m.

but that's just bc of his opening

6:33 p.m.

idk if converted traitor would open saying mafia fs picked daytalk

I’m comfortable with a Luka vote at the moment.

bc it's new info they just acquired whatever their teammates

6:33 p.m.

picked

Yeah Luka is at worst blind traitor to me

i'm not really

6:34 p.m.

i think he can easily be traitor but he doesnt really have killing abilities rn

6:34 p.m.

+ if we lynch someone and they flip out traitor i'd kinda clear luka

I don't see anybody at the moment who has a more convincing case as scum then Luka.

6:35 p.m.

Traitor > Town

yeah but

It doesn't matter if traitor can't kill.

you'd need to have a strong read for that to happen

6:36 p.m.

idk i have seen luka stopping to try when getting tr'd as town

6:36 p.m.

so ig that's also something

What are the other potential votes at the moment?

Deleted User

I was confused by Nge's suggestion that Luka might be a potential traitor. I had the impression that the traitor was added during the pregame chat. Based on my observations, Luka began decently, but their performance declined as more people town read them. At the moment, their vote is aimed at an inactive player, which is reasonable. However, Luka isn't adding much to the discussion. As far as I can tell, they mostly focus on themselves or asking for a wizard vote without providing reasons. In fact, I haven't noticed any explanations for their reads. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Im focused on another game right now

6:37 p.m.

over this

6:37 p.m.

and im a bit stressed over it

6:37 p.m.

sry

That's fine, but still, I can't excuse unexplainable reads.

Deleted User

I don't see anybody at the moment who has a more convincing case as scum then Luka.

thats fair but 4 people dont have a case at all and they arent really giving us anything

6:37 p.m.

I want one of those players dead

6:38 p.m.

Im fine with switching to dec who at least said something, and willingly gave nothing to the town

6:38 p.m.

rather than wizard who seems like a new player who could just be afk good

Deleted User

That's fine, but still, I can't excuse unexplainable reads.

Thais fine

Danger!? Luka!

Thais fine

Could you explain your town reads?

For sam its mostly the dumb tell which seems actually genuine imo As scum saying that there when tmk sam knew of the town slips earlier that day is a bit weird

6:39 p.m.

Kadan I like there doc slip too, it felt actually unintentional

He explained it was intentional later on.

Ah, he did?

Yeah.

One second, let me double check that

Deleted User

What are the other potential votes at the moment?

for instance i wouldnt object a kirin vote, kiri wants gc i think, kadan also in the pool

6:40 p.m.

dec is always an option

Depending on the way he said it was unintentional id lean towards him being good based on that since scum has no reason to say that

6:40 p.m.

but I need to see the way he said that

6:40 p.m.

give me a second

y'all will never sr callahan

6:40 p.m.

i'm starting to not tr gc after looking him from outside

6:40 p.m.

doesnt matter much either way

6:41 p.m.

idt i'll want gc today

Danger!? Luka!

Kadan I like there doc slip too, it felt actually unintentional

It was because I mixed with ne42 and didn't actually pay attention to both games hence busy irl and hosting

KadanRay

I only did this townslip about doctor because I participated in ne42 btw

Here.

So it's not that big of slip

ugh

I see Idt the context really gives much so its still a small town lean just for saying that in general which is a bit weird imo but not much of significance

6:41 p.m.

6:42 p.m.

Hard to do much when Im probably one of the worst players here at the game who isnt just afk but ill try my best

i personally feel town for luka, kadan, bump

Danger!? Luka!

I see Idt the context really gives much so its still a small town lean just for saying that in general which is a bit weird imo but not much of significance

Think about this, if I was at least starting mafia I would participate in conversation in pre-start and do check stuff

and kiri isnt particularly scummy, even slight tl just uncomfortable with it not being as strong as it usually is

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138953780373770432

So someone please sum up again (cause its been over 12h i think)

Dec asking for a summary but did literally nothing afterwards, even with a summary given it kind of feels like scum trying to act like they care about the game

6:43 p.m.

Nothing else of significance for dec on content mostly just filler

6:43 p.m.

Nge im not going to try to read, same with wizard and myself

callahan/sam/kirin/gc/wizard/dec would be the people i could see myself voting and

6:43 p.m.

idt i vote gc today

6:43 p.m.

or sam

6:44 p.m.

callahan/kirin/wizard/dec

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138938073242157107

Doesn't seem like you're doing much this game Luka

The entiertly of today has been spend on other games, I played two live clocktower games and I needed to focus on a multiday game where I have a cop red check, sorry.

Totally understandable

I townlean calla, not convinced on luka

Botc requires lots of mental preparations

Ngekop

callahan/kirin/wizard/dec

so swap luka for calla and thatd be my group

kirin+wizard+dec are

6:45 p.m.

never the team

6:45 p.m.

no way

Imagine if yes

no

Such a troll

I think we can overall agree on a Dec vote.

I'd be fine with it I think?

Oh we back to sheep vote kiri had

6:45 p.m.

Nice

yeah no i'm p sure i'm wrong somewhere

6:46 p.m.

sighhhh

Nge dw brooo

6:46 p.m.

It's just D1

6:46 p.m.

Likehood of Keaton dying N1 is like 80%

6:46 p.m.

You'll have time

i mean i know i never die n1

6:47 p.m.

and if i do honestly lol

KadanRay

Likehood of Keaton dying N1 is like 80%

the remaining 20 being roleblocker/bg?

Yeah

keaton after given a flip to gather info is dangerous + he is clear so like killing me over him is not great

I don't expect everybody to have amazing reads on day one. It's hard to navigate especially with three people inactive. We best should agree on one person we all mutually agree on as a vote, since we don't have much to work with at the moment.

Yup

6:48 p.m.

If Keaton survives it means he can lead longer and probably try to find town

Keaton dies tonight unless bodyguard, sorry.

or roleblocker

Ye

wait no

Roleblocker on the tmk

Wait it works?

I do imagine it's actually roleblocked game

6:49 p.m.

*roleblocker

I thought it worked, then remembered fac kill is not role-wise

6:49 p.m.

does it still work?

I want this game to have a strong town presence before I go.

it works

Yeah pray roleblocker hits rng lucky and Keaton leads like D2

6:52 p.m.

Lol

6:52 p.m.

I doubt there's bg

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/113893567417994448

Nor really a fan of them sheeping onto my wagon. Especially with what I was accused of but I don't think it's scummy given the great options we've had this far.

I dont think the wagon was very strong, but at the very least it got discussion going. I can see sheeping onto it and idt thats very scummy https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138929634906480722

I'll check Bump since they've talked since I last read them yesterday night @Gamecube

Why bump out of curiosity? To my knowledge wouldnt a better check be something like nge? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138928719247978657

I wouldn't mind the Kirin vote at least. Dec I believe I can read after our last game. I'd also be okay with Wizard since they have done nothing but respond to a ping about Pokemon and not the ones asking to play.

Im confused by this. Kind of implying you wouldnt be fine with a dec vote when tmk they've done the exact same as kirin / wizard in that they afkd, however unlike them they showed that they were free to at least play the gmae? GC didnt really adresss anybody whos actually spoken alot aside from the LHF in me / the three AFK players(kind of similar to me lol)

6:53 p.m.

Nothing on kirin I want them dead

Bump isn't bad check imo

As mentioned prior I think sam is good due to the dumb tell earlier today, didnt feel faked.

Whatever this guy claims to be invest

KadanRay

Whatever this guy claims to be invest

Check as in ISO them

6:53 p.m.

I assume

I see

Already stated my thoughts on sam

6:54 p.m.

Ill check other people later, I need to get to other mafia games for a bit

Gl there my man

@Giles Corey vc?

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/113893567417994448

Nor really a fan of them sheeping onto my wagon. Especially with what I was accused of but I don't think it's scummy given the great options we've had this far.

I dont think the wagon was very strong, but at the very least it got discussion going. I can see sheeping onto it and idt thats very scummy https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138929634906480722

I'll check Bump since they've talked since I last read them yesterday night @Gamecube

Why bump out of curiosity? To my knowledge wouldnt a better check be something like nge? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138928719247978657

I wouldn't mind the Kirin vote at least. Dec I believe I can read after our last game. I'd also be okay with Wizard since they have done nothing but respond to a ping about Pokemon and not the ones asking to play.

Im confused by this. Kind of implying you wouldnt be fine with a dec vote when tmk they've done the exact same as kirin / wizard in that they afkd, however unlike them they showed that they were free to at least play the gmae? GC didnt really adresss anybody whos actually spoken alot aside from the LHF in me / the three AFK players(kind of similar to me lol)

Wasn't meant as a readlist, I was just going over people who I felt like going over. Bump has been the subject of a lot of discussion so I was interested to see if anything changed.

6:59 p.m.

Dec I'm more familiar with compared to the other two. And with recent games I believe I can read him better

Gamecube

Dec I'm more familiar with compared to the other two. And with recent games I believe I can read him better

What's your read on Dec?

He's barely talked, but he seems to care less about a game if he's town

He can be town easily

7:01 p.m.

But I rather get it out

Compared to Kirin and Wizard what's the difference for you Kadan?

None, but apparently wizard is new? So give em chance for next or two phases

7:04 p.m.

I mean I'm new too to this, it's just that I've been into SDGs for a while so I got a hang of games like these

Wizard just showed up and only takes about Pokemon

7:05 p.m.

Hasn't replied to any other pings

7:05 p.m.

Is that not odd?

Yeah that's true

7:05 p.m.

Busy, lazy, plain disinterest

7:05 p.m.

Some people apply compulsively or out of other factor

7:06 p.m.

Idk about wizard

Not sure why

7:06 p.m.

I usually sign up if I have the time to spare

7:06 p.m.

In any case what about Kirin then?

No clue, haven't heard a word, just popped out and pinged me thrice to reply to some of my comments which were actually questions about game mechanics from like start lmao

7:08 p.m.

Ig they may be observing game and trying to catch up

7:08 p.m.

But likely just got bored/lazy

7:09 p.m.

Can't tie either of them to faction so grey zone

7:09 p.m.

A nuisance for most people and sweet target for mafia if they're not their teammate

7:10 p.m.

(Just in general about Dec/Wizard/Kirin)

7:10 p.m.

So I'm happy to get one by down until they start... Playing

7:10 p.m.

I know D1 isn't as important but mate you need to follow prods rule

7:11 p.m.

Sorry sleep deprived here so gotta sleep in few mins

Alright I'll just read what you wrote

Once again don't check me -- mech game wise

7:14 p.m.

Otherwise it ruins the fun you have when I flip clueless

7:15 p.m.

pls do iso me tho

My Dec read isn't just what I said earlier but I can't properly come to a conclusion if he won't do much else.

7:23 p.m.

So if we want to lynch him I won't object

KadanRay

I know D1 isn't as important but mate you need to follow prods rule

D1 is super important bc everybody is alive

7:24 p.m.

That's where u can get the most information

Both Kirin or Dec would give some info. Dec with through people who've voted. Kirin sort of with votes but specifically Kirigiri would seem more town if he flips mafia

7:26 p.m.

Wizard just gives zero info with the lynch

@Giles Corey vc?

the wagon on dec also piled up really easily

I mean from my POV

9:39 p.m.

a innocent child voted

9:39 p.m.

I voted

9:39 p.m.

and its just kadan / bump

9:39 p.m.

idt a scum would mind killing there own afk scum buddy here

hm

9:46 p.m.

i actually dont sl anyone in the wagon that formed here

The Kirin wagon hasn't achieved similar support though

kirin's wagon was

9:49 p.m.

you too

9:49 p.m.

hm

9:49 p.m.

but not bump or kiri

9:49 p.m.

eh

9:49 p.m.

sljgoiiowjgw

I'm not blind

9:50 p.m.

Oh you were continuing that sorry lol

There might be a scum in the vote on dec rn

9:51 p.m.

yea

9:51 p.m.

but who

From your perspective that's only Nge and Luka

and kadan

Kadan too

9:54 p.m.

Going to follow through on that Bump or was that it

ok

9:59 p.m.

kirin vs dec is fine

9:59 p.m.

@kirin yang @The Royal Assassin, Dec

Wait

hi

10:00 p.m.

what's up

can we make them defend both of their cases on why they r town

10:00 p.m.

like let’s make this

i literally just pinged

If any if you are prs don't claim, you are not in danger at the moment

them

yeah Ik

10:00 p.m.

But game show style

10:00 p.m.

Or some shit

oh lol

10:00 p.m.

uh

That's assuming they would show up

Idk if that would be fun or not

10:01 p.m.

but it will bring in activity

Gamecube

If any if you are prs don't claim, you are not in danger at the moment

shut up wtf do you mean they are not in danger

um

one has 4 votes

10:01 p.m.

the other has 2-3

End of day using a while

10:01 p.m.

And both have claimed prematurely before

they show up once in a blue moon

Gamecube

And both have claimed prematurely before

eh

@wizard lee how are you doing

yes and no

10:02 p.m.

dec did for no reason bc no one was asking him even

10:02 p.m.

but he also has gotten lynched as pr

10:02 p.m.

twice

I

bc he didnt show up in 24 hours

now I’m worried

Ngekop

twice

d1

bro now I’m really worried

and kirin outed aaaaaaaaaafter he was at L-1

10:02 p.m.

lmao

Kirin claimed with like 1 vote last time

so like he had to out when at L-1

10:03 p.m.

he didnt

10:03 p.m.

then the wagon went away

10:03 p.m.

and THEN he outed

And dec did the same albeit it was also a counterclaim

Gamecube

Kirin claimed with like 1 vote last time

but he was already L-1 before that

Gamecube

Going to follow through on that Bump or was that it

That was it pretty much I don't trust Kadan too much, Luka's still sus for me + Keaton's insight on him, and well Nge is Nge

Think the message is warranted

okay we have 15 hours so both of them have to come and say something

10:04 p.m.

like there isn’t a excuse

still

I very much see a situation where either show up with two votes in them and immediately claim now

if dec shows up rn

10:04 p.m.

i'd rather have him claim

10:04 p.m.

he has 4 votes

10:04 p.m.

including the IC

oh I forgot Keaton got that power

Sure I just don't expect people to hammer day 1

do I vote kirin

10:05 p.m.

or not

Your call

R we trying to pressure

your call indeed

10:06 p.m.

4-3

10:06 p.m.

this is good

okay so this add urgency

10:06 p.m.

Adds

i do want them to claim

10:07 p.m.

we already have an outed pr anyways

But r we willing to risk a better pr to claim that’s the thing

10:07 p.m.

Bc all the other prs r better then ic

10:07 p.m.

and they will just die the next night

10:07 p.m.

which kind of ruins their like

10:07 p.m.

purpose

10:08 p.m.

ugh

Unless they didn't respond to bodyguard claim

I hate inactive ppl

10:08 p.m.

I don’t hate I dislike sorry

charlie

But r we willing to risk a better pr to claim that’s the thing

look

10:09 p.m.

if kirin is a pr

10:09 p.m.

idm him die over keaton

10:09 p.m.

even if he is goon cop

10:10 p.m.

and regarding dec i think atp it's best for him to out bc keaton is on him

Well I would like a goon cop in the game to be honest even tho Keaton is good and shit, having someone to confirm ppl is better

10:10 p.m.

Like goon cop confirms

10:10 p.m.

Keaton just crazy good at reads

10:10 p.m.

But who says he will always be right

10:10 p.m.

He’s still new

10:11 p.m.

Like I understand why we have to do this im just parnoid on the fact that a pr will be outed and then

10:11 p.m.

like what

10:12 p.m.

They just die when they could of been useful

charlie

Well I would like a goon cop in the game to be honest even tho Keaton is good and shit, having someone to confirm ppl is better

that's the thing

10:12 p.m.

goon cop doesnt confirm a thing

10:12 p.m.

unless they get a goon

it doesn’t?

10:12 p.m.

oh okay

but if they get a not goon report

10:12 p.m.

that person can be traitor or mafia pr

ugh nevermind I thought it was like if ur bad then ur bad and it shows up

Oh thought only traitor was the exception there

Like a cop

Pretty shit roles here

not really

I fuck with the tracker role tho

charlie

I fuck with the tracker role tho

wut

I want a tracker in the game

i-

that’s the best role

Don't expect mafia to pick Joat so yeah I'd agree

10:14 p.m.

Too situational

cant believe callahan is dating keaton ngl, makes sense but still didnt expect it

10:15 p.m.

tracker isnt that useful lmao

10:15 p.m.

unless one maf left only

10:15 p.m.

roleblocker better than tracker imo

idk I find roleblocker bad bc what if it gets a pr

worth the risk imo

like what if it roleblocks a vig shot

It has the ability to stop maf though

10:16 p.m.

And essentially play the same role as tracker

Or a tracker u know

^^

or literally anything

the thing is also

10:16 p.m.

if one maf left

10:16 p.m.

rb'er even if dying

10:16 p.m.

at night

10:16 p.m.

clears someone

10:16 p.m.

upon death

10:17 p.m.

like if they die whoever was rb'd is cleared

Yeah but wouldn’t they have to announce who they r rb

10:17 p.m.

like the day before night

yes

yeah makes sense or scum could just lol idle and get that person out

10:17 p.m.

and then kill again

10:17 p.m.

Wait no

10:17 p.m.

Too risky

if they idle

10:18 p.m.

it's like a ml

10:18 p.m.

yk

I just realized

charlie

and then kill again

well there would be a new target announced

I been saying uk as u know

if it's scum then gg lmao

Yeah

10:18 p.m.

It’s too risky

and if not then same effect as before

Ngekop

cant believe callahan is dating keaton ngl, makes sense but still didnt expect it

Forgot to respond to this

10:21 p.m.

why do u think Keaton would willing play mafia without a reason

10:21 p.m.

Ik he would be good

10:21 p.m.

Too good let’s kill him

charlie

why do u think Keaton would willing play mafia without a reason

he's good

10:22 p.m.

also i knew you were friends+

10:22 p.m.

and maybe close or smth

Tracker, Vigilante (depends on the person), Roleblocker I think are valuable here Cop is somewhat valuable could actually be to our detriment Bodyguard would extend Keaton's life but otherwise pretty bad

still

Gamecube

Tracker, Vigilante (depends on the person), Roleblocker I think are valuable here Cop is somewhat valuable could actually be to our detriment Bodyguard would extend Keaton's life but otherwise pretty bad

vig is great to have

10:23 p.m.

vig is literally additional ml

Are you willing to have a pr claim here then? Acknowledging that 3 out of 5 roles are good to have

Ahhhh

One of which you state could win us the game given the right circumstances

Gamecube

Are you willing to have a pr claim here then? Acknowledging that 3 out of 5 roles are good to have

yes

that’s the thing if both of these claim citizen then we are allowing mafia to narrow down on pr as well

vig shoots tn regardless

10:25 p.m.

mafia cant really stop it

10:25 p.m.

so the ml isnt lost

10:25 p.m.

and tracker and rb'er are just useful if they last long enough

Could still be useful before

10:27 p.m.

I realize both are likely to not show up before eod so I get where you're coming from

well

10:27 p.m.

it keeps keaton alive

10:28 p.m.

and we're talking about dec and kirin

I couldn't care less about them right now it's their role

10:29 p.m.

Are you concerned with them not showing up and being misslynches as pr?

regardless

10:29 p.m.

they need to claim atp

10:29 p.m.

especially dec

Gamecube

Are you concerned with them not showing up and being misslynches as pr?

Me yes

Hmm

10:33 p.m.

My logic is assuming they are ordinary players who would show up at day time or at least close to it

Yeah we got a lot of time left

Yeah but just thinking of how responsive they've been to pings

10:35 p.m.

I'm not sure right now. I do still think it's premature to claim. As you said even if none claim then the pool for pr hunting goes down.

10:35 p.m.

Though I do think Keaton would be killed before mafia do that as he's a confirmed one

Yeah I don’t see Keaton not dying tn unless bg is on him which we already concluded there isn’t one or we got a rb and they rb the mafia who is killing

10:38 p.m.

which would be nice asf if we have a rb who rb the mafia killing keaton bc Keaton stays in and we have a confirm mafia

10:38 p.m.

and then two confirm town

That would be nice

10:41 p.m.

Likely not sure but maybe

10:42 p.m.

I do think we should ask more people if they're fine with claims right now.

Ngekop

@kirin yang @The Royal Assassin, Dec

pong

10:42 p.m.

finnaly back

There wasn't much activity during the next few hours yesterday so the lynch candidates are likely to remain the same

10:44 p.m.

Dec are you going to be free for a bit

10:44 p.m.

And for eod?

KadanRay

Watch for Kaeton message in near future

can someone point me to the message alluded to herem

10:45 p.m.

here?*

Non existent yet

Gamecube

Dec are you going to be free for a bit

maybe like 15-30 minutes max

10:45 p.m.

when is eod (in est)

Before 3pm

oh yeah

10:45 p.m.

115

10:46 p.m.

right?

10:46 p.m.

1:15*

10:46 p.m.

oh no

10:46 p.m.

itll be 1:00

Huh nevermind

the :15 was bc pregame - day 1 cycle change

It's before 1

its at 1 for me

Yeah I just started talking later and thought it was around 2:30

ans thatd be a strong maybe

10:47 p.m.

for EoD

10:48 p.m.

bc school

10:48 p.m.

actually

10:48 p.m.

i could be on literal last minute if i remember

10:48 p.m.

cause my lunch starts at 1259

Funny how Callahan and NgeKop both left before your arrival

10:48 p.m.

Anyways have you checked votes

and my teacher that class is a stickler about phones

im here

Gamecube

Anyways have you checked votes

yeah i got a train on me rn

10:49 p.m.

i dont like it

10:49 p.m.

but like

dec said he'd be in here in 15-30 minutes

ik im one of the most afk

so kinda waiting

Ngekop

dec said he'd be in here in 15-30 minutes

i will be here for 15-30

ohhh

not in

10:49 p.m.

yeah

lol

i may get longer, but at that point i may just cut off and not talk again for hours

10:50 p.m.

bc parents may take phone

Oh

So I suppose catching up on the game isn't in the cards then?

maybe subbing out would be better for u

Ideally all inactives sub out but then we are left with no wagons

10:55 p.m.

Well now what

Gamecube

So I suppose catching up on the game isn't in the cards then?

not really sadly

charlie

maybe subbing out would be better for u

i mean yeah, but at the same time, i find mafia too fun, evsn if i dont get enough time in game as i want too

10:57 p.m.

~~no i wont explain, people have asked before how not talking in the theard but playing without reading much is fun to me (it is) and i couldnt answer them other then "it just is"~~

10:57 p.m.

thread*

Well since ur here for 15-30 mins

10:58 p.m.

do u have any reads or anything u want to point out

I'd suggest at least searching for people's name here that have been in conversation

10:58 p.m.

Would give you an idea without relying on someone else's perspective

charlie

do u have any reads or anything u want to point out

i got a slight sl on nge (they usually are a LOT pushier on me, especially when i am not doing much, such as now)

11:00 p.m.

and slight tl on gc just bc they are acting much more levelheaded then when i was group!scum with fhem

11:01 p.m.

though that may actually be more a traitor read bc they are also usually more pushy then this though even as town

Gamecube

I'd suggest at least searching for people's name here that have been in conversation

i can try

Easier to be levelheaded when you know who is an ally and who isn't

OK WAITWAITWAIT

The Royal Assassin, Dec

i got a slight sl on nge (they usually are a LOT pushier on me, especially when i am not doing much, such as now)

uh

HOW AM I BEING PIT AGAINST SOME WITH 12 POSTS???

11:02 p.m.

HOW IS THAT EVEN A QUESTION

Well u guys

11:02 p.m.

R literally

11:02 p.m.

On the same plying field

11:02 p.m.

Playing

dec idm voting you out

Like a may be second to last but i have over triple their posts

and i really have been less pushy

Gamecube

Easier to be levelheaded when you know who is an ally and who isn't

how tho

when you got lynched as pr in ma51

11:03 p.m.

i tried so hard to change to gappy

11:03 p.m.

made it go to rng

11:03 p.m.

still you died

Ngekop

when you got lynched as pr in ma51

((if thay was dealer)) you were still more pushy then right now, before you changed to be more pushy on someone else, rn you are acting very passive towards anyone

11:04 p.m.

(atleast in my eyes)

The Royal Assassin, Dec

Like a may be second to last but i have over triple their posts

Well actually there's another played whose had zero game related posts

The Royal Assassin, Dec

((if thay was dealer)) you were still more pushy then right now, before you changed to be more pushy on someone else, rn you are acting very passive towards anyone

no

11:04 p.m.

dealer was in sp34

Wizard

Gamecube

Easier to be levelheaded when you know who is an ally and who isn't

i mean ues, but like, unless im confusing you with someone, you acted a lot goofier to try to throw people off track when we were scum buddies

Gamecube

Well actually there's another played whose had zero game related posts

then why are they not also here

11:05 p.m.

in the PoE?

And me not doing that now is suspicious?

Gamecube

And me not doing that now is suspicious?

no, its a tl

11:06 p.m.

not a sl

11:06 p.m.

i think you are towny/traitory

Must of misread then

ye

11:06 p.m.

nge is sl in my eyes

yeah let's lynch kirin

11:06 p.m.

tbh

The Royal Assassin, Dec

nge is sl in my eyes

you're not helping

Ngekop

dealer was in sp34

1 sec then while i figure out which was 51

The Royal Assassin, Dec

1 sec then while i figure out which was 51

you were transporter

oh i forgot about the hollow knight game lmao

11:08 p.m.

oh yeah, i did 17 posts, lfc i forgot

11:08 p.m.

ofc*

well

11:09 p.m.

i think it'd be really dumb or really smart for you to say sl on me bc im usually more pushy

11:09 p.m.

(as maf)

ok just went back

especially since you clearly have read the votes and you know i'm voting your counter wagon

yeah so you were still pinging me telling me basically "you will die" quite a bit more then what is happening here, so still gonna be slight sl

Ngekop

especially since you clearly have read the votes and you know i'm voting your counter wagon

yeah im not gonna go vote ya over it or anything lmao

idt you're getting my point

Ngekop

idt you're getting my point

your saying either im dumb or im gigabrain rn

11:12 p.m.

but i shouldnt vote ya bc atleast for rn your on my side

i still can't trust callahan

anyways

The Royal Assassin, Dec

your saying either im dumb or im gigabrain rn

if you're maf

how is wizard nit the top vote

Ngekop

i still can't trust callahan

ok?

charlie

ok?

just thinking you made it 4-3

they have i messages

11:12 p.m.

8*

The Royal Assassin, Dec

how is wizard nit the top vote

No info from the lynch

and i hate that situation

11:13 p.m.

not that you can do anything about it tho

11:13 p.m.

still

Ngekop

just thinking you made it 4-3

I literally asked if that’s what u wanted me to do

11:13 p.m.

and u guys said

11:13 p.m.

U choose

11:13 p.m.

And I said sure bc of pressure

Gamecube

No info from the lynch

ok fair, but also like, they will hurt the least now

i'm not saying it is scummy

11:13 p.m.

sigh

for voting them

i'm thinking if you're maf then it's likely these two are both town

vrs voting them in lylo/mylo and losing

which is a concerning lowkey fear

11:14 p.m.

especially now that i see this from dec

11:14 p.m.

@Deleted User what do you think

Would be a wasted day if wizard is town

Gamecube

Would be a wasted day if wizard is town

would be better then wasting that day when we have less time on the clock

11:15 p.m.

((someone has made this exact argument at me before which i now agree with lol

Not sure what less time on the clock means

11:18 p.m.

Wizard could be evil who just doesn't know what to do, I don't know if they've played before

Gamecube

Wizard could be evil who just doesn't know what to do, I don't know if they've played before

not here, but they immediately self advertised a diff server when they joined

But nobody has taken the time to vote them, discuss, defend etc.

Gamecube

Not sure what less time on the clock means

mylo/lylo or atleast closer to those points

Means less to base suspicions on later

Gamecube

Means less to base suspicions on later

true

Ah yeah if they remain inactive having them at that time would be annoying

but imagine if we have thay exact scenario, but doing it later

11:19 p.m.

now you see what i mean

11:19 p.m.

though we could just hope for replacement

11:19 p.m.

but same could be said about kirin or me

11:20 p.m.

(much less me now but like yk)

11:20 p.m.

also i saw you keaton dont go hising

11:20 p.m.

hiding*

Keaton is confirmed town by the way

Ngekop

@Deleted User what do you think

Regarding Callahan, still town. You can tell she’s paranoid about both wagons. Which is a town behavior, and her worrying about PR’s being narrowed down if both people claim citizen is townie. Also, how she’s scared about how they both could be PRs and not speak before EoD and be mislynch is town behavior.

Gamecube

Keaton is confirmed town by the way

yeah i saw the inno child message

I don't see how Callahan is connected to Dec or Kirin.

Deleted User

Regarding Callahan, still town. You can tell she’s paranoid about both wagons. Which is a town behavior, and her worrying about PR’s being narrowed down if both people claim citizen is townie. Also, how she’s scared about how they both could be PRs and not speak before EoD and be mislynch is town behavior.

~~literally done that before lmao~~

11:23 p.m.

~~51 funnily enough, the one nge was talking with me about earlier~~

I don't understand.

Dec has died in the way Callahan is a afraid a pr will die here

Oh.

Twice I think

Did Dec claim?

No

This game no

Gamecube

Twice I think

1 i claimed and was killed, 1 i didnt but had asked nge if i should claim

Deleted User

Did Dec claim?

do ya want me too?

I don't think it's necessary personally

Deleted User

Regarding Callahan, still town. You can tell she’s paranoid about both wagons. Which is a town behavior, and her worrying about PR’s being narrowed down if both people claim citizen is townie. Also, how she’s scared about how they both could be PRs and not speak before EoD and be mislynch is town behavior.

i'm asking about dec

People are voting you for inactivity

11:29 p.m.

And you're talking now

11:29 p.m.

Or at least for now

ugh

11:30 p.m.

gcccccccccccccc

11:30 p.m.

what are youuuuu

whaaaaaaatttttt

11:31 p.m.

Bodyguard

The Royal Assassin, Dec

1 i claimed and was killed, 1 i didnt but had asked nge if i should claim

no

11:31 p.m.

what

Ngekop

i'm asking about dec

Oh.

when you were dealer you just let yourself get lynched

Deleted User

Oh.

yeah what i said about his sl on me

Ngekop

when you were dealer you just let yourself get lynched

and in the other it was 24h before eod

11:31 p.m.

and you never came back after that

11:31 p.m.

how would i know like omfg

11:32 p.m.

also you softer pr there anyways

11:32 p.m.

softed*

11:32 p.m.

same as when you softed (and then claimed) seer in ma53

Ngekop

i'm thinking if you're maf then it's likely these two are both town

Wizard and Kirin?

Deleted User

Wizard and Kirin?

kirin and dec

11:32 p.m.

not important

11:32 p.m.

im ignoring that thought rn

11:32 p.m.

but tell me what do you think of dec there pls

11:33 p.m.

what i said

I'm sorry, I just got off a flight. Let me situate myself more before responding so I don't give a half-ass reply.

k

Ngekop

when you were dealer you just let yourself get lynched

no i claimed dealer, and did ask for people to not, but was still killed

i'm rn a bit overwhelmed with lots of things i have to do

11:35 p.m.

so i cant think that deep about this game as i would like

The Royal Assassin, Dec

no i claimed dealer, and did ask for people to not, but was still killed

i iso'd you

Ngekop

and in the other it was 24h before eod

i think i came back but not long enough to matter

Take your time.

and never saw you claiming

The Royal Assassin, Dec

i think i came back but not long enough to matter

well you didnt talk

11:35 p.m.

and wdym not enough to matter

11:36 p.m.

you literally just had to vote your counter wagon and you wouldve survived

on the hollow knight

yeah ik

11:36 p.m.

you got lynched by rng

11:36 p.m.

i managed to tie the votes

i think i said 1 message in that >24h period

bc you were like 4-2

Ngekop

you got lynched by rng

oh didnt even know

11:36 p.m.

cause i wasnt fhere

11:36 p.m.

lol

yeah ik

yoo

that one i was super afk

i still think you didnt claim dealer

11:36 p.m.

but i can check that later

11:37 p.m.

not relevant for this either way

Oh Dec is alive

hi seany

when are we voting Nge

never

I assume Dec deflected onto someone

he said me sl

11:37 p.m.

slight

either kirin or wizard

11:37 p.m.

my 2c

ye

11:37 p.m.

wizard is

Okay, what I'm seeing is you are unsettled by the fact he scum lean you even though you voted on his counter wagon?

completely nai

11:37 p.m.

and if giles double prods

11:37 p.m.

he gets forced replaced

11:38 p.m.

@Giles Corey do you do the double prod thingy?

11:38 p.m.

as in

wait i am so confused

if they have 0 posts

11:38 p.m.

they get 2 prods

11:38 p.m.

instead of 1

Kinda sucks to kill a nonexistent slot but w/v

The Royal Assassin, Dec

wait i am so confused

about what?

that would be cool

Deleted User

Okay, what I'm seeing is you are unsettled by the fact he scum lean you even though you voted on his counter wagon?

no

11:38 p.m.

what

That's a good thing

i'm saying it'd be really dumb or really smart if he's maf for him to come in and do that

11:39 p.m.

hence it probs town

Yeah.

especially bc he sl'd me for not being as pushy on him as i normally am

11:39 p.m.

which just lowkey

11:39 p.m.

encourages me to vote him

The Royal Assassin, Dec

wait i am so confused

i legit thought i aliveline pinged as dealer claiming dealer lmao

Why are we talking about another game?

unless he thinks a bit far ahead and expects me to tl that from him which idt is the case

11:40 p.m.

not bc he isnt capable

Ngekop

unless he thinks a bit far ahead and expects me to tl that from him which idt is the case

I don't think he's thinking that far.

just bc he doesnt seem like that invested

He's not reading.

yeah

11:40 p.m.

but he did read the votes

11:40 p.m.

sl'ing someone who is voting your counter wagon currently

11:40 p.m.

for not pushing you as they usually do when you're not active

11:40 p.m.

is a

11:41 p.m.

really dumb thing to do as mafia

11:41 p.m.

especially when you are down 4-3

11:41 p.m.

just risk getting a 5-3

11:41 p.m.

5-2*

11:41 p.m.

especially bc i'm a bit unpredictable in terms i can omgus really easily

ok caught up

Yeah. It's seems townie to me.

back to life

oh ok

11:41 p.m.

W

Ngekop

not bc he isnt capable

unless im doing claim+read lists out the wazoo im a not capable

11:42 p.m.

aka when im ne lmao

11:42 p.m.

i didnt even think youd tl me

11:43 p.m.

tbh i thought youd just, sl me back (which im surprised you're not doing) but was hoping i couldve convinced you to still vote kirin or wizard bc they are so far below me in posts

Ngekop

@Giles Corey do you do the double prod thingy?

what

that was my thought process

if someone doesnt say anything

11:43 p.m.

i give them a 2/3

thats what nge asked, thank giles

if someone says stuff but doesnt meet the requirement its a 1/3

yup yup!

11:44 p.m.

thank youn

11:44 p.m.

(@Ngekop yes giles does double prods)

11:44 p.m.

WAITNHOWD THAT PING

11:44 p.m.

sorry

11:44 p.m.

usually (@ doesn't ping

Deleted User

He's not reading.

i am now, though im not gonna go read the stuff before i came back tongith

So Wizard could be replaced day 2 instead of 3 now

Gamecube

So Wizard could be replaced day 2 instead of 3 now

wizard could be replaced tonight

11:46 p.m.

( @Giles Corey you day EoD prods and Midday prods right?)

yes

11:46 p.m.

every 24 hours of day

yeah

if the day gets cut short no prods

so if wizard doesnt come back

11:46 p.m.

they replace during night

11:46 p.m.

(no maj so i dont pay attention to that rn

11:47 p.m.

anyways

11:47 p.m.

Since thats possible

11:48 p.m.

IF wizard talks, we should swap unto them

11:48 p.m.

ELSE we should kill kirin

They haven't responded to any pings

reasoning: both super afk, but kirin has spoken this 24h, wizard hasnt

11:49 p.m.

wizard could get force replace, kirin will take longer too

11:49 p.m.

though if force replace wasnt a thing id be avocating to high h*ll rn for wizard to die

11:50 p.m.

( @Deleted User @Ngekop @Gamecube @charlie are yall good with my IF/ELSE statmsnt i posted slightly above

I don't see why Wizard would refuse to talk if he was town

11:51 p.m.

But again no info and there could be some other reason that I we aren't aware

11:52 p.m.

Not sure how common a frozen scum for new players is here. Haven't encountered many myself of the last two years

could just be doesnt sign on for >24h

he was here though

liks i do ever once in awhile

Gamecube

he was here though

i mean like

but responded to a Pokemon related question

wont get bavk on till after SoN

that's acknowledging the existence of the game

they haven't been here for almost 24h now

11:54 p.m.

ok

11:54 p.m.

if they get on at same time

11:54 p.m.

theyll be here in 3 hours

11:54 p.m.

for about 1 minute

yee haw

The Royal Assassin, Dec

tbh i thought youd just, sl me back (which im surprised you're not doing) but was hoping i couldve convinced you to still vote kirin or wizard bc they are so far below me in posts

uh

11:55 p.m.

what

so how much have you read anyways?

Giles Corey

i give them a 2/3

W

11:56 p.m.

still since it's his first game

11:56 p.m.

i think it's unfair to not even ping

11:56 p.m.

@wizard lee bro are you going to play this game or not :/

Ngekop

i think it's unfair to not even ping

we have been pinging

11:57 p.m.

thats the thing

Giles Corey

if the day gets cut short no prods

maj disabled today either way

(atleast thats what yall said...)

The Royal Assassin, Dec

IF wizard talks, we should swap unto them

wtf

11:57 p.m.

what kind of reasoning is that

killing them later will be more detrimental

you are telling him basically

if they start to prodge

you either force replace yourself or you die

if they actually start talking talking

The Royal Assassin, Dec

killing them later will be more detrimental

That's asuming wizard never talks

oooor they start talking?

thats different

ohhh

11:58 p.m.

ok i get it now

sorry if that was unclear

11:58 p.m.

but if they do the like 8 messages thingy

11:58 p.m.

nuhuh

The Royal Assassin, Dec

sorry if that was unclear

have you read anything thus far

@kirin yang dude

12:02 a.m.

even dec showed up right away cmon

Gamecube

have you read anything thus far

only really my pings, the iso of kirin, the iso of wizard, and a tiny tiny bit around where i have posted (and everything since my most recent entrance

Read the first hour of day start

Gamecube

Read the first hour of day start

why have i been banished to reading memeohase, fine

It's not too bad

Ngekop

even dec showed up right away cmon

I keep forgeting ok

12:16 a.m.

Im srry

12:17 a.m.

Also your a stupid

12:17 a.m.

Period

12:17 a.m.

Not explain

12:17 a.m.

Ing

Should be pretty obvious why you would be pinged

12:17 a.m.

In a game where you haven't spoken

Whwn i know

12:18 a.m.

I took a break for a month and was expected to play the game so in my defence i keep forgeting

But you plan on playing?

Well if there a guy tell me i habe to do stuff here bc i cant remeber myself sure

Your memory is that bad?

Gamecube

Your memory is that bad?

Yes and also its been a month or 2

Why not start now then because you got 5 votes on you if you aren't up to speed

Ngekop

even dec showed up right away cmon

Roses are red violets are blue I think you lost a brain cell or two

12:24 a.m.

U are calling out the sake guy that gaslight so hard 3 days had pass and still didnt vote him

12:24 a.m.

And he was mafia

kirin yang

Roses are red violets are blue I think you lost a brain cell or two

lmfaoooooooo

And now in active as i was this can bc there always the possibilty that im mafia means im somewhat clear but more importantly not worth a vote

12:26 a.m.

Think this thou

kirin yang

U are calling out the sake guy that gaslight so hard 3 days had pass and still didnt vote him

who are you talking about

I’ll contribute to this more soon I promise

12:26 a.m.

Pinky promise even

Ngekop

who are you talking about

The demon and imp game

you were maf

Is d1 74h

Let me explain

that game?

Sorry 78h

no

12:26 a.m.

48

Oh okay

Since im so inactive most likely i get mod killed or replace but if looking toward a mod kill then there would be no point to the vote

12:29 a.m.

So what we can do is vote someone that may give more imformation and if i dont die by like day 3 most likely scum af and deseverced to be voted but day one voting me is bad

12:29 a.m.

So pls unvote me

12:30 a.m.

rad

12:30 a.m.

Just literally ask for sub

12:30 a.m.

It's not that hard

kirin probably scum pr

12:31 a.m.

and wants to stay alive for longer

12:31 a.m.

since they arent asking for a sub

What

12:31 a.m.

Ok

Yeah like literally ask for sub everyonewasgagged

Your proposal is assuming we have other suspects

Don't waste everybody's time

Im gonna lmao

what

Prob either danger nge or no gamecube cz i didnt get to read him

12:32 a.m.

I think i found a slip and yea

what does thsat even mean

Who is danger

12:32 a.m.

Oh

Me

Luka

12:32 a.m.

Lol

Yea

12:33 a.m.

Too lazy to read full name

kirin yang

I think i found a slip and yea

Where

Idk

The word think would be a guess to my memory but ok

12:34 a.m.

An we get hammer or no

kirin yang

Since im so inactive most likely i get mod killed or replace but if looking toward a mod kill then there would be no point to the vote

you never get modkilled unless you break the rules

Ngekop

you never get modkilled unless you break the rules

Ah man

Yeah I'm not shifting lol but thank u for ur reads

charlie

Yeah I'm not shifting lol but thank u for ur reads

What reads

kirin yang

Prob either danger nge or no gamecube cz i didnt get to read him

These?

Ok ty

What is happening

Im think im dying and im being salty about it bc im gwtting voted and i cam find out who lead the push on me

12:39 a.m.

But im betting it nge

Do something about it then

ehhhh

kirin yang

But im betting it nge

idk

I'm going to be real with u

12:40 a.m.

u have no room to be salty at all

i voted you many times and switched

charlie

u have no room to be salty at all

damn

Like honestly

12:41 a.m.

I'm not trying to be mean but like seriously

Gamecube

Do something about it then

Well i could say the same thing to u a couple games ago

what

Fight fight

tatakae!!

What

kirin vs gc

tatakae!!

Let's get this going

Ok

tatakae tatakae

12:42 a.m.

shinzou wo sasageyoooooo

okay Erwin

Game cube u can say your abc and 123 but u seem lost when you come at me

damnnnn

I never seen you once come at me man to man

There's hasn't been any opportunities

You alway seem to be in the shadows more than a cocroach

12:45 a.m.

And you fight like one too

I can't tell if ur rapping or insulting

Idk

But I support either way

12:46 a.m.

get him

Not sure what he's doing

Gamecube

Not sure what he's doing

My point

12:46 a.m.

If it anything to do with me he get confused or jusy dead

12:47 a.m.

And then when im at my weakest he comes out of the shadoes

12:47 a.m.

Gc r u going to take that

12:47 a.m.

I wouldn't

12:47 a.m.

Personally

My vote on you has been pretty public

No gc rap back

12:48 a.m.

this is a rap battle

if anything your the shadow cockcroach thing

kirin r going to take that

12:48 a.m.

U

12:48 a.m.

R u*

I honour Callahan as my substite

12:49 a.m.

go get em

oh shit

12:49 a.m.

Uhh give me a moment

Gamecube

if anything your the shadow cockcroach thing

My guy your build like twinky a sugar no fact

12:52 a.m.

All sugar no fact

12:53 a.m.

U come back it the defintion of uno reverse

If only this effort was put into reading maybe you wouldn't be at 5 votes Comfycatsip

12:53 a.m.

back to my game

Kirin in the spotlight, but the shadows know the truth, Mafia in their veins, they're playing quite uncouth. Whispers 'round the town, suspicions on the rise, In the game of lies and deceit, they're caught in the ties. Voting's on the horizon, Kirin’s time is near, Their schemes and hidden motives, the town can clearly hear. Accusations flying wild, evidence amassed, Mafia's grip is slipping, their time running out fast. Tonight's the reckoning, the votes are gonna pour, Kirin’s facing the heat, their secrets to explore. In the midst of the chaos, their empire's set to fall, Mafia's reign is ending, it's the final curtain call.

Gamecube

If only this effort was put into reading maybe you wouldn't be at 5 votes Comfycatsip

Personally at least im remeber in a game instead of being in the background

I be rapping

Fire

What is this?

kirin yang

Personally at least im remeber in a game instead of being in the background

I've been present, I'm never inactive for entire days

Gamecube

My vote on you has been pretty public

U defintion of public is voting and no context to it or just being on a wagon

oh please

Gamecube

oh please

Say it

read I'm not waisting my time

charlie

Kirin in the spotlight, but the shadows know the truth, Mafia in their veins, they're playing quite uncouth. Whispers 'round the town, suspicions on the rise, In the game of lies and deceit, they're caught in the ties. Voting's on the horizon, Kirin’s time is near, Their schemes and hidden motives, the town can clearly hear. Accusations flying wild, evidence amassed, Mafia's grip is slipping, their time running out fast. Tonight's the reckoning, the votes are gonna pour, Kirin’s facing the heat, their secrets to explore. In the midst of the chaos, their empire's set to fall, Mafia's reign is ending, it's the final curtain call.

This is actually pretty good.

Gamecube

read I'm not waisting my time

But u uave nothing better to do

Gamecube

okay Erwin

;-;

Gamecube

okay Erwin

well

12:57 a.m.

the last one to say that

12:57 a.m.

has been levi

12:57 a.m.

to hange ;-;

Deleted User

This is actually pretty good.

Thank u

charlie

But I support either way

lmao

charlie

this is a rap battle

OMG I LOVE THOSE

12:58 a.m.

spanish better than english tho

12:58 a.m.

zzz

Deleted User

This is actually pretty good.

didn't expect an actual paragraph

U asked me to sub in I'm going to defend u

Ngekop

OMG I LOVE THOSE

AHHHHH IK IK

charlie

U asked me to sub in I'm going to defend u

what?

I'll nominate Callahan next time I get dragged into another one

Ngekop

what?

He asked me to sub in for him for the rap battle

Ngekop

what?

we're mafia teammates you see

charlie

He asked me to sub in for him for the rap battle

oh

and Kirin's comments were too damning I needed help

lol

1:01 a.m.

eh whatever

1:01 a.m.

hi kirin

1:01 a.m.

hru

Someone call the abulance but not for me

Gun

1:02 a.m.

run

Earth, fire, wind, water they forgot the last element gamecube slaugther

So kirin u mafia

No

1:06 a.m.

Unfortuntely wish i was

Mood

Was that all you planned on saying Kirin?

it’s okay I rap battle them and won

What

1:22 a.m.

It was between me and gamecube but if youre into then easy you mop the floor with us

Callahan won the rap battle

1:23 a.m.

I'm talking about the vote

1:23 a.m.

All you did is get angry at me

Ok maybe

Mm agreed, I'll definitely reconsider the lynch today. My perspective on the game has changed utterly

kirin yang

It was between me and gamecube but if youre into then easy you mop the floor with us

Gc asked me to sub in for him

1:27 a.m.

I'm not changing sorry just reread what they said

Were you finishing the comment Kirin or was that it, I can't tell

they refuse to sub out even tho they don't want to be active

Gamecube

Were you finishing the comment Kirin or was that it, I can't tell

I changed subjects

That's directed to Kirin

Yes

1:28 a.m.

But like also to everybody

Gamecube

Were you finishing the comment Kirin or was that it, I can't tell

Im done i think

Alright then

1:28 a.m.

Good talk

yeah…

charlie

they refuse to sub out even tho they don't want to be active

Is this regarding Kirin?

so this seems like defeated mafia

Gamecube

Is this regarding Kirin?

Yeah

Because he say we should just wait for replacement

yeah which looks like scum trying to buy more time

1:30 a.m.

we shouldn't have to wait for a replacement if he knows he won't be active

1:30 a.m.

He should just sub out

1:30 a.m.

That's what a town would do

Indeed

1:31 a.m.

It's just a way to get out of lynch without putting the effort to try

yeah like

Won't say it's necessarily scum

charlie

they refuse to sub out even tho they don't want to be active

No iy not i dont wsnt to be active ot that im forgetful why i. Inactive

But it doesn't look good at least

I would say it's scum bc like they gave reads and then forgot they gave reads and the only thing they gave so far was just random rap battles which was fire

1:32 a.m.

But if ur on the line for a potential lynch

I was thinking maybe town pr would but Kirin would have claimed by now

U should be trying a bit more as town

1:32 a.m.

Just seems like defeated scum in my view

So yeah town would just replace instead if dragging it out

1:33 a.m.

Psst Kirin

1:33 a.m.

Who are your best friends here?

If u had to choose ppl out of this pl who would u choose just randomly of course

1:33 a.m.

kirin

If u chose me that wss not random

I'm asking u that question

Oh

1:35 a.m.

Not mge bc for some reason he just town even when not town

1:35 a.m.

So from your guys list wisard

I thought u scum read nge

Wait let me guess Luka

1:37 a.m.

When in what wprld would u guys kill nge

Lynch Wizard

Gamecube

Lynch Wizard

I was actually ISOing deck

1:37 a.m.

dec

I'm a natural

1:37 a.m.

Cool

Plus it never works out when hes dies

Close tho <3

The Royal Assassin, Dec

HOW AM I BEING PIT AGAINST SOME WITH 12 POSTS???

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139030977461620776

HOW AM I BEING PIT AGAINST SOME WITH 12 POSTS???

I dont think thats all to weird given at the time you guys contributed about the same thing

kirin yang

When in what wprld would u guys kill nge

After day 1 if I notice something in particular that bothers me

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139030977461620776

HOW AM I BEING PIT AGAINST SOME WITH 12 POSTS???

I dont think thats all to weird given at the time you guys contributed about the same thing

Yeppers

Gamecube

After day 1 if I notice something in particular that bothers me

That nge is that guy with no enemies

I've sussed him before

The Royal Assassin, Dec

nge is sl in my eyes

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139032036917641216

nge is sl in my eyes

Not sure if you said this before but mind saying why

I haven't played with him when he's been evil

nge town every agme meta

I played once with nge when he was town and he was like calm?

1:40 a.m.

now he's more reactive

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139032036917641216

nge is sl in my eyes

Not sure if you said this before but mind saying why

Come from the person that says there bad a sl

1:40 a.m.

Or reads

1:40 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139034131104268318

would be better then wasting that day when we have less time on the clock

(Hypocrit) honestly opinion changed might be better to just wait for a sub for wizard atp and lynch somebody that gives us info

kirin yang

Come from the person that says there bad a sl

That was from dec

1:40 a.m.

not me

1:40 a.m.

Honestly I just want to know why they think that

Dec or kirin is the vote rn

Danger!? Luka!

That was from dec

Cap

1:41 a.m.

Im find it

and I'm leaning kirin and if they flip town then dec bc one of them is scum I think

The Royal Assassin, Dec

tbh i thought youd just, sl me back (which im surprised you're not doing) but was hoping i couldve convinced you to still vote kirin or wizard bc they are so far below me in posts

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139041330408988682

tbh i thought youd just, sl me back (which im surprised you're not doing) but was hoping i couldve convinced you to still vote kirin or wizard bc they are so far below me in posts

Can you give reads that arent inactive players?

It was at the the start and dec it active at the later parys

charlie

now he's more reactive

I've seen him lose his cool. He can be very reactive if people do something he disagrees with

Okay dec has like 7 pages of content and exactly 3 messages of substance

1:42 a.m.

id be fine with dec flipping

In a game I played as mafia he almost hammered within 30 minutes of day 2 and 3

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139041330408988682

tbh i thought youd just, sl me back (which im surprised you're not doing) but was hoping i couldve convinced you to still vote kirin or wizard bc they are so far below me in posts

Can you give reads that arent inactive players?

Bc im umpredictable

kirin yang

Bc im umpredictable

?

1:43 a.m.

Im talking to dec with that sentence

Gamecube

I've seen him lose his cool. He can be very reactive if people do something he disagrees with

His reactive is ppl scum reading him but the game I played with him when he was town I paired him with scum for a moment and he was like fair

1:43 a.m.

So that's why I'm like

How does nge

1:43 a.m.

have

1:43 a.m.

2k messages

ig weirded out

in this chat alone

1:43 a.m.

@Ngekop stop being so active it makes you hard to iso and is annoyign

Bc nge op

Nerf nge pls

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138521450890928230

I’d rather have traitor conversion or rolecop

Tbh I know this has been said before but just casually conversing about what you would pick as scum reads good to me. Idt scum would give ideas, also later on they said they would go nothing and honestly this seems to pan out with what the other two really experienced players here are saying so

1:46 a.m.

okay I have a reason why nge is good

1:46 a.m.

im not reading 1100 more messages

I

I'm not reading all of this either

Such a cool ISO

Wizard will have a force sub out soon

Or like at all

So I’m not worried

Nge how you sleep at night

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138538004802183170

And yes I am town

Nice gamecube locked town we did it

Gamecube

I would like to know why Luka is considered town though. All he's done is be confused from what I've seen

natural charm

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138521450890928230

I’d rather have traitor conversion or rolecop

Tbh I know this has been said before but just casually conversing about what you would pick as scum reads good to me. Idt scum would give ideas, also later on they said they would go nothing and honestly this seems to pan out with what the other two really experienced players here are saying so

Personally I'd go day chat. It's nice being able to plan with teammates as the game changes

Luka isn’t lock town anymore

It's easy to just write whatever

they r leaning towards traitor now I’m pretty sure

1:49 a.m.

that’s what nge and Keaton talked about

Gamecube

Personally I'd go day chat. It's nice being able to plan with teammates as the game changes

I mean sure but I think the logic still stands

1:49 a.m.

just casually conversing about what you would pick as scum and that logic checking out by two experienced players

charlie

that’s what nge and Keaton talked about

Okay

1:50 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138550296767909898

Luka were you trolling here

Forgot keaton was innocent child

1:50 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138550604529143840

I don't see the goal with the post, how could you have missed Keaton being child? Besides this is just pr hunting

Goal of the post was that I thought keaton was PR hunting

1:50 a.m.

tbh im going to skim over alot of the stuff I was I was here for

Skip the part where i was amgry for no reason

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138709101799555102

What's that gonna give us

I never fully adressed this but if wizard flips scum at the very least that gives us, presuming they dont flip traitor a traitor at worst in me(which tbf town already figures). If they flip town though it doesnt give much so as mentioned earlier id be willing to lynch somebody else that gives us more info now though

1:52 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138716893780381786

I do still dislike Luka's conduct. Wizard, Kirin, Dec need to talk

After dec / kirin have spoken what do you think of them? Although I might find that later. Also, what about my conduct do you particularly think is scum like?

1:53 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138721720769978448

This is actually one of the worse reads I have ever seen in my whole mafia career

Why? Its pointing out something weird. Regardless of if you think its bad or not is generating discussion not better than just ignoring a scum slip, fake or not?

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138721720769978448

This is actually one of the worse reads I have ever seen in my whole mafia career

Why? Its pointing out something weird. Regardless of if you think its bad or not is generating discussion not better than just ignoring a scum slip, fake or not?

um lol

can u read the full convo

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138730914537541754

And if any prs claim. So maybe best we wait for Kirin to show up

No matter what here unless youre about to be flipped dont claim as pr d1 imo, even if youre bg since you just confirm yourself by going onto innocent child

For that I believe Callahan believed I was doubling down on the read when I wasn't

charlie

um lol

can u read the full convo

tmk wasnt it gamecube asked you why you knew dec was busy

1:54 a.m.

or something like that

Read the convo…

oh okay

So like what I’m seeing is ur just pulling out random statements and just making comments instead of fully reading

1:55 a.m.

To generate content?

Wait my role get reveal at the end right

Well yes if u get voted out

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138716893780381786

I do still dislike Luka's conduct. Wizard, Kirin, Dec need to talk

After dec / kirin have spoken what do you think of them? Although I might find that later. Also, what about my conduct do you particularly think is scum like?

Last game you weren't totally active the while game but day 1 you present, were arguing and reading. And I wasn't seeing that here

charlie

So like what I’m seeing is ur just pulling out random statements and just making comments instead of fully reading

Im only looking at gamecubes messages

1:56 a.m.

and taking tibits from other things

Yeah make sure u read like

1:56 a.m.

Everything

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138521450890928230

I’d rather have traitor conversion or rolecop

Tbh I know this has been said before but just casually conversing about what you would pick as scum reads good to me. Idt scum would give ideas, also later on they said they would go nothing and honestly this seems to pan out with what the other two really experienced players here are saying so

i'd choose 3 options as scum

1:57 a.m.

eait

1:57 a.m.

im supposed to speak in conditional

Gamecube

Last game you weren't totally active the while game but day 1 you present, were arguing and reading. And I wasn't seeing that here

Im a bit more busy the D1 / D2 of this game, sorry

charlie

Everything

eugh okay

Ok so remeber you theory and ideas all depend on me being evils so it will be i who has the last laugh

1:57 a.m.

Hahahaaa

no?

I with

Danger!? Luka!

Im a bit more busy the D1 / D2 of this game, sorry

You clarified at a later point that you were busy with another game

1:58 a.m.

So I'm aware of that now

kirin yang

Ok so remeber you theory and ideas all depend on me being evils so it will be i who has the last laugh

No.

1:59 a.m.

You set yourself up to be the vote today and refuse to do anything about it.

Kirin has 96 messages

1:59 a.m.

and one of them is relevant

1:59 a.m.

97 now I think

Either way, what's that word?

Is it the twinky message?

Anti-town.

Deleted User

You set yourself up to be the vote today and refuse to do anything about it.

Ok im just going to pretend i didnt see that

Gamecube

Is it the twinky message?

No

2:00 a.m.

It probably mu reads

kirin yang

Ok im just going to pretend i didnt see that

Just like how you pretended you didn't see this game, multiple times.

2:02 a.m.

Just sub out.

2:02 a.m.

If you can't contribute and are begging to stay alive until the host subs you out, then what's the point?

Deleted User

Just like how you pretended you didn't see this game, multiple times.

No just like how you pretend that how you pretend that you good at this game when your really just saying things that are above your understanding

2:03 a.m.

Is English your native language?

If you thing im just choosing to do nothing your gonna make me laugh cause ive been in counyless situation like these and every single mf time the exact lines are "you are refusing to do anything"

kirin yang

If you thing im just choosing to do nothing your gonna make me laugh cause ive been in counyless situation like these and every single mf time the exact lines are "you are refusing to do anything"

That should be a wake-up call for you then?

Everytime they say that i think they actually have a brain tumor bc i dont kmow how the fuck im suppose to wake u up from the reality that is me some how find a way to not get voted out

Participate

I'm actually laughing.

It's really easy

Gamecube

Participate

Bro are u brain

How clueless can you be?

How do i get out of the situation

By simply talking you would have avoided this situation

By fucking doing something.

Read provide opinions

Reading and commenting on reads

Don't whine

Or do your own reads

2:07 a.m.

It's an SDG

KadanRay

By simply talking you would have avoided this situation

No but ur not anwering the question thou

Why do you think you get voted in the first place

I can't believe this person is real.

2:07 a.m.

Are you trolling?

Gamecube

Why do you think you get voted in the first place

Why the do u thing i call u a cocoroach

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138578000330375179

Ok so technically rn we could have 5 TPow?????

We can have 5tpo, chances are we wont https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138578952701620376

Cuz there's no way in hell he actually thought about stuff with 418 messages in here trolley

Why not? That aside, as mentioned prior I think if youre town would you really need to think things through to hard? Lol https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138839446750507138

However, it would not make sense for maf!Calla to just try n deflect off of Dec for such a basic reason (D1 inactivity) onto me (also inactive)

Wait prior to this you said you dont like it, and now youre saying you town lean callahan what confused https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138863914004775057

"nge is traitor and mad he didnt get recruited so he's trying to hunt scum"

I dont think nge would be mad if they didnt get recruited as good here https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1138875371807309985

kiri is not scum with how they've played so far

Why not https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139016225117188167

I don't trust Kadan too much, Luka's still sus for me + Keaton's insight on him, and well Nge is Nge

Can you expalin why you dont trust kadan

Gamecube

But you plan on playing?

@kirin yang You could have started here

Also alot of non game related content from bump

Gamecube

@kirin yang You could have started here

And you saw my repojse

2:09 a.m.

Reponse

Just a simple "yes I plan on playing sorry for the inactivity"

They aren't planning on playing.

Sam has done nothing the entire game thus far tbh aside from the dumbtell I still do trust the dumbtell though

Im telling you why and how i can avoid

We did tell just now

2:10 a.m.

But you seem to not like answer

I don't think they understand.

Ing every single time ive been active is bc i just check or my friemd would remind me by tell me he was playing mafia.com

Sub out.

Good Lean:
- Kadan, Sam, Nge

Neutral:
- Everybody Else

Scum Lean:
- Bump, Dec

Locked Scum:
- Keaton

2:11 a.m.

Fun read list

U forgot someone

kirin yang

Ing every single time ive been active is bc i just check or my friemd would remind me by tell me he was playing mafia.com

You're getting a lot of reminders right now

2:11 a.m.

We're lumped into everyone else

Gamecube

You're getting a lot of reminders right now

.....

kirin yang

U forgot someone

I didnt

Me

no youre in the neutral category since I cba to deal with you rn

Ignore them.

2:12 a.m.

Honestly ignore him.

This has to be a troll.

Me

I don't believe someone can be this dumb.

I cant believe you pass elementary

Why wouldn't I?

2:14 a.m.

I'm a student attending a university.

With ur situational awareness i would contently thing u would be lost on upcoming topic

Danger!? Luka!

Good Lean:
- Kadan, Sam, Nge

Neutral:
- Everybody Else

Scum Lean:
- Bump, Dec

Locked Scum:
- Keaton

okay so kadan sam nge scum team?

kirin yang

With ur situational awareness i would contently thing u would be lost on upcoming topic

I'm going to assume English isn't your native language. Which is fine.

2:15 a.m.

But, it's hard to understand what you are saying.

2:16 a.m.

English isn't my first language either, so I understand.

Deleted User

But, it's hard to understand what you are saying.

Ok then i will make it clear then The reason why I am inactive for today is because that I took a break from mafia to focus on school and summer school

kirin yang

Ok then i will make it clear then The reason why I am inactive for today is because that I took a break from mafia to focus on school and summer school

I thought it was because you kept forgetting.

Kirin read this message If you're genuinely confused here. To get out of this situation leave this conversation and go read. There's plenty to catch up on, discussion of townslips at the start, the various votes that have taken place, people's actions, etc. You're being voted for not doing anything and your conduct so far is making people more sus of you. If you want to get out of this do what you signed in this game to do, play mafia it's not hard because so far you have only been complaining and doing a rap battle.

What's the change-up?

Because im trying to get back into the game I forgot that i was apart of the chat i KEEP FOR GET THAT IM IN THIS GAME BECAUSE I HAVE SO MANY PING FOR PERSONALLY REASON I CANT GET RID OF.

2:19 a.m.

I have 325 as an example

Deleted User

I thought it was because you kept forgetting.

I mean they did forget and they knew they had school but applied regardless

2:19 a.m.

So that's totally on them

2:19 a.m.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah. I'm going to have to ask them to sub out.

Then the poiny of me getting into the game would be pointless

I don't see any value in anything you put down.

I would be litterally better of leaving the server or waiting till decwmber

And you don't seem to want to contribute, so I don't know what else to do.

kirin yang

I would be litterally better of leaving the server or waiting till decwmber

I only play during breaks

2:21 a.m.

It's hard to keep up with a game when busy with school

Gamecube

I only play during breaks

What do you think im doing

.

How long till eod

11 hours.

Can someone tell me what did i miss

Kirin is uh

Useless.

Blunt

Complaining I guess?

Luka gave walls

2:24 a.m.

So

2:24 a.m.

Kirin isnt the only thing i missed

Only like two of them and they aren’t very good

I fr need to go to sleep soon

2:24 a.m.

~~now actually~~

Just so I can say I’m doing something st least

So getting myself into reading them isnt a smart choice

Im gone to bed

Gn kirin

Gn

Can you claim your role pls

2:24 a.m.

Btw

Please for the love of god, sub out.

I hate this

2:25 a.m.

Sigh

2:25 a.m.

But anyways

2:25 a.m.

Keaton

Ngekop

Can you claim your role pls

Kirin seems to have gone to sleep

Deleted User

Please for the love of god, sub out.

They refuse

Danger!? Luka!

They refuse

Not town.

I think forgetting about the game is more likely to happen as town than as mafia and it feels like he genuinely forgot, so imo either kirin is town

2:26 a.m.

Or mafia didnt pick daytalk

2:26 a.m.

Idk if that should be any relevant

2:26 a.m.

Tbh

Deleted User

Not town.

Aside from me and Kirin who’s your top scum read

They refuse to sub out and want to wait for the host to sub them out. They are trying to prolong their death.

Kinda my view on the matter

Ngekop

Or mafia didnt pick daytalk

I thought about this right when i posted the previous thing btw

Forgot to click enter on my message lol

Kirin can be maf with no daytalk honestly

2:27 a.m.

Kirin outside of that isnt particularly towny in the slightiest

Yeah

Him asking to stay alive a bit longer too

2:28 a.m.

Isnt really towny of him

Danger!? Luka!

Aside from me and Kirin who’s your top scum read

I'm still rereading.

Ngekop

Him asking to stay alive a bit longer too

It’s either pr or scum and a pr should have claimed by now if they’re lead wagon with 5 votes

You would sub out if you were town.

Deleted User

I'm still rereading.

Ping me when you know please

He seemed frustrated with his situation of being accused for not talking and somehow not knowing how to save himself. I can see the request to not vote him as town just trying to survive a day.

Danger!? Luka!

Ping me when you know please

Yep. I will.

Thanks

Keaton

2:29 a.m.

May i know where’s your head at before going to sleep?

I want Kirin dead.

Don't want hammer whole I sleep

2:30 a.m.

But I do think that interaction is not necessary indicative of scum. We shouldn't equate incompetence with scum

Gamecube

Don't want hammer whole I sleep

You realize majority isnt enabled

2:30 a.m.

Right?

Gamecube

But I do think that interaction is not necessary indicative of scum. We shouldn't equate incompetence with scum

Kirin being incompetent isnt alignment indicative no offense

2:31 a.m.

Especially when he isnt even trying

2:31 a.m.

But they do have like

I remember reading as much in chat but wasn't sure

Really few towny stuff if he even has any

He has nothing.

While he does have tells i have seen him doing as maf and almost never as town

And will continue to have nothing unless he subs out.

And won't contribute either

2:32 a.m.

Maybe I'm looking at it wrong. He could very well be complaining as scum there too. As town and scum he'd be getting voted there for similar reasons

Deleted User

And will continue to have nothing unless he subs out.

Agreed

2:34 a.m.

There are 6 people as backup even

2:34 a.m.

Ngekop

While he does have tells i have seen him doing as maf and almost never as town

Do tell

He refuses to sub knowing he won't contribute and is waiting for host to personally sub him out, and wants us to wait with him until Day 3.

2:35 a.m.

Day 3 is oddly specific, not sure why he said that day.

KadanRay

There are 6 people as backup even

OMF

2:36 a.m.

G

2:36 a.m.

MIH

2:36 a.m.

MIH

2:36 a.m.

MIH

2:36 a.m.

LET MIH IN

2:36 a.m.

PLS

2:37 a.m.

I still think kirin is maf tho so better just vote him

2:37 a.m.

Wizard gets forced replaced either way

Yeah Wizard clearly doesn't plan on contributing

I really hope MIH takes over the slot

2:38 a.m.

I miss him sm

2:38 a.m.

He was like

2:38 a.m.

My partner last stack the deck

2:38 a.m.

We crushed d1 fr

2:38 a.m.

Then i died and he stopped trying but still

He had me as a scumlean when I led on both mafias

You didnt lead

2:39 a.m.

You voted

2:39 a.m.

Let’s get things straight there

True not Dart

And in kong allan was the one who led

2:39 a.m.

And y’all

2:39 a.m.

Lynched him

2:39 a.m.

‍♂️

Gamecube

True not Dart

However you were like

I did seal Dart's fate though

Almost decisive votes in both cases

2:40 a.m.

Yeah

2:40 a.m.

Y’all giving meredith credit for that omfg

2:40 a.m.

Like i literally told meredith switch or die

2:40 a.m.

Anyways

I was rusty

2:40 a.m.

Back on topic

Let’s not flood the chat

2:40 a.m.

Ye

You and Dec already did that enough lol

Wouldnt mind continuing conversation outside tho

Gamecube

You and Dec already did that enough lol

Dude that isnt flooding it cmon

At the moment yeah

Also it was to the point of how pushy i usually am on him

2:41 a.m.

And him getting lynched as pr

2:41 a.m.

D1

2:41 a.m.

Which arent completely irrelevant to address

2:41 a.m.

If kirin is maf

2:41 a.m.

Dec is probs town

2:42 a.m.

And idk what to think of callahan

2:42 a.m.

Probs town honestly

2:42 a.m.

Bc she would fs bus

2:42 a.m.

And she tried bringing attention

2:42 a.m.

To kirin

2:42 a.m.

When the wagon on dec was on

You will never trust her lmao

And now made it 3 on kirin

2:42 a.m.

BUT

2:42 a.m.

BUT

2:42 a.m.

BUT

2:42 a.m.

I REAAAAAALLY DOUBT

2:42 a.m.

Kirin would ever actually forget about the game

2:42 a.m.

If callahan was his partner

2:43 a.m.

Callahan didnt read to me as frustrated maf that wanted daytalk and didnt get it

That would go for a lot of folks no ? Or are you referring to day talk

So if she’s maf i think she fs has daytalk and if that’s the case then kirin always gets pinged in mafia chat way earlier

Gamecube

That would go for a lot of folks no ? Or are you referring to day talk

Not really

2:44 a.m.

Some people said they would probs like it but callahan was strong about it

2:44 a.m.

Unless she’s traitor but honestly if i keep saying that for everyone i wont get anywhere

2:45 a.m.

First lynch two og mafias then go crazy over that

Yeah won't get anywhere with constant traitor suspicion

Gamecube

You will never trust her lmao

Fake

2:45 a.m.

If she is town i will

2:46 a.m.

Today yeah probs no

2:46 a.m.

Well keaton never said anything

2:46 a.m.

I fr fr fr fr frrrrrrr

2:46 a.m.

Need to sleep

2:46 a.m.

Aaaaaa

2:46 a.m.

Gn

Sleep well

I'm here for a little longer if anyone is around

Ngekop

Kirin being incompetent isnt alignment indicative no offense

That was my point here by the way

2:56 a.m.

I still stand by my belief that such a reaction could come from a member of town

2:56 a.m.

But considering the factors surrounding Kirin I'll just vote again especially with no hammer

Danger!? Luka!

Also alot of non game related content from bump

Yup been on plane+vacation

2:59 a.m.

didnt read so mucj

Ngekop

I still think kirin is maf tho so better just vote him

wait so

3:00 a.m.

are we switching to kirin?

Have you both recent conversations

3:01 a.m.

Dec and Kirin showd up

And when he inevitably flips town, will I be able to comment "told ya" and push wagon on Nge trolley

3:01 a.m.

(this will end horribly if he's scum)

Perhaps

hi im back, i was backreading like giles told me when i had to stop till now

kirin yang

Well if there a guy tell me i habe to do stuff here bc i cant remeber myself sure

set alarms on your phone like me then

kirin yang

So what we can do is vote someone that may give more imformation and if i dont die by like day 3 most likely scum af and deseverced to be voted but day one voting me is bad

i went over this a few times, killing you then is worse then killing you now, especially if you dont pick up past prodging

kirin yang

Prob either danger nge or no gamecube cz i didnt get to read him

so the three people talking to you...

kirin yang

Ah man

but you can still be force replaced

charlie

Kirin in the spotlight, but the shadows know the truth, Mafia in their veins, they're playing quite uncouth. Whispers 'round the town, suspicions on the rise, In the game of lies and deceit, they're caught in the ties. Voting's on the horizon, Kirin’s time is near, Their schemes and hidden motives, the town can clearly hear. Accusations flying wild, evidence amassed, Mafia's grip is slipping, their time running out fast. Tonight's the reckoning, the votes are gonna pour, Kirin’s facing the heat, their secrets to explore. In the midst of the chaos, their empire's set to fall, Mafia's reign is ending, it's the final curtain call.

kirin yang

Personally at least im remeber in a game instead of being in the background

except, you dont...

kirin yang

U defintion of public is voting and no context to it or just being on a wagon

no its not lmao

Gamecube

Mm agreed, I'll definitely reconsider the lynch today. My perspective on the game has changed utterly

kirin yang

No iy not i dont wsnt to be active ot that im forgetful why i. Inactive

this is worse then me at spelling lmao

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139030977461620776

HOW AM I BEING PIT AGAINST SOME WITH 12 POSTS???

I dont think thats all to weird given at the time you guys contributed about the same thing

not really, i had double before i even came back to refute this

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139032036917641216

nge is sl in my eyes

Not sure if you said this before but mind saying why

i have explained

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139034131104268318

would be better then wasting that day when we have less time on the clock

(Hypocrit) honestly opinion changed might be better to just wait for a sub for wizard atp and lynch somebody that gives us info

we should vote one and have other repoace

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1137276202311241758/1139041330408988682

tbh i thought youd just, sl me back (which im surprised you're not doing) but was hoping i couldve convinced you to still vote kirin or wizard bc they are so far below me in posts

Can you give reads that arent inactive players?

that was on nge...